"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Guide to Negs
- Thread starter saber101
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Jack-Torrance
Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2007
- Messages
- 123
- Reaction score
- 1
(backhanded compliment)
Plec07
Senior Don Juan
The second also lets her notice that you are interested in more than just her looks. Making you differ from other guys.
Infraction
Don Juan
- Joined
- Jan 30, 2007
- Messages
- 131
- Reaction score
- 0
Thats playing with firemr_elor said:yeah, a favouite of mine when they say the obligotary "I'm so fat" routine is to say:
"Well I didn't want to say. [arm round her] Fortunately for you I like big girls"
Jack-Torrance
Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2007
- Messages
- 123
- Reaction score
- 1
LOL that's real good haha I can imagine their reaction nowmr_elor said:yeah, a favouite of mine when they say the obligotary "I'm so fat" routine is to say:
"Well I didn't want to say. [arm round her] Fortunately for you I like big girls
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Plec07
Senior Don Juan
Jack-Torrance
Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 4, 2007
- Messages
- 123
- Reaction score
- 1
One in my personal arsenal >
Infraction
Don Juan
- Joined
- Jan 30, 2007
- Messages
- 131
- Reaction score
- 0
There was this girl which i talked to for abit. I went over to her tent (it was a school trip) and i felt like negging. Her last name is "Zoro" so i said :"You know, my dogs name is Zoro [pause]. He died".
She gave me a couple of intrsted looks after that.
I only neg Super *****es or girls which can take jokes. Low self-esteem girls are a big nono for negs.
The Shocker
Senior Don Juan
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.