"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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grinding with chicks. is it an ioi

choonight

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meet up with 2 chicks at one of the girls house
Go to the club and me and my buddy take turns grinding with them all night.
First time seeing them.
Are girls just comfortable grinding up on random guys like that ?
 

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I'd say there is a 80% chance that grinding is followed by make out on dancefloor.

It's more difficult to achieve anything worthwhile after makeout.
 

f283000

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What kind of dumb thread is this?

You went to the club with a group, you ended up grinding with the girls you went to the club with from your group and you're wondering if they want you.

Let me break down something to you. Every saturday night all over the world there are groups of people going to the club together AND DANCING TOGETHER! Anytime you take girls to the club either by yourself or in a group 99% of the time they are likely to be dancing with you. It's part of club culture. Groups dancing around each other or with each other. It doesn't mean that hor that was grinding on you all of a sudden is madly in love with you. The previous week she was probably grinding on some other dude it doesn't mean a thing.

Instead of being confused making threads on this forum and thinking some hor now all of a sudden wants you because of a little grinding why don't you keep it simple? Call this girl that was grinding on you and ask her out. Stop complicating yourself.
 

terran2k

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i agree with f283 on this. people make things soo complicated these days.
 

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Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The ioi is when you bed her at the end of the night.

IOIs as isolated things seem pretty dumb to me. If you're just starting you may not have a sense for when things are going well. But you'll develop it soon, and then you won't need to worry about some little thing she did.
 

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"grinding with chicks. is it an ioi"

Sure it is. In dancing.

I want to build on what f283000 has said. Stop treating girls like there some whole complete social being with all the answers and social programming that you somehow didn't get. They get nervous and insecure and unsure just as much as any guy. There are several reasons a girl will grind dance on you. First, she can get away with it on the dance floor. It becomes an excuse for questionable behavior. Like alcohol is for sleeping with you. Second, she's getting comfortable doing something with you, a guy she doesn't care about, so she can do it confidently to the guy she's head over heals for. Third, it IS just dancing to her. And fourth, she likes you.

Grinding with you should be taken as validation. That she found you attractive enough to do it with. And. She felt you were grounded enough NOT to make a huge deal out of it. If you make a huge deal out of it, you destroy your social proof with her. They don't want to fvck on the dance floor. If they did, they'd become p0rn stars. STOP WATCHING P0RN. The best thing to do is treat it like it is. Dancing. Go sit down somewhere and carry on like normal. Build on the dancing. "You like dancing?" blah blah. "I like dancing with you. Me and my boys go out every sat. You should bang with us <haha> I mean hang with us" blah blah. "Cool. let me get your number." Take her dancing a few more times. Viola! You get HB social proof and a potential fvck buddy. Just keep escalating the dancing.

Thats it. Other girls will take notice of how cool you handle her grinding.
 
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