"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Got the number of girl, but call and "I have a boyfriend"?

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Sup guys, first post here. Just want to see that I love this place and the DJ bible. Great stuff, it's helped me a lot.

So I'm in college and there's this chick I was digging, maybe... a HB7.5 or 8? Anyway, she was pretty cute, so I asked for her number and she gave it to me, easy as pie. Friday, I call her up. I say straight up that I'm calling to ask her out on a date. Then...

"Ooh... I have a boyfriend. I'm sorry."
Me: "It's okay. Peace."

and then I hung up.

Now, I'm glad I did this, and I'm not hung up on it. I view it as a learning experience, more time in the field improving. But to get even more out of this, I wanted to know if there was an answer to why she gave me her number if she had a boyfriend? That just doesn't click with me.

Thanks guys.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Hmm, in general college is a social place. And in where I come from, people exchange numbers freely in school. I'm guessing you put her on the guard by telling her too directly that you are taking her out on a date, triggering some unknown mechanism in her brain that causes her to mention her boyfriend, whether or not he actually exists.
 

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*shrug*

I wasn't about to beat around the bush. You may be right though. In this case, this is a community college. Which, unlike the name, isn't as social a place as a university. Girls understand that if you ask for their number, you're asking for dating reasons.
 

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where I come from, people exchange numbers freely
Yeah, especially in this day and age, with texting, facebook, etc. people give out there numbers for all sorts of reasons. Your girl may have just been being friendly, or social. or just wanting some attention.

I agree with thewickedm in that you were too upfront about asking for a date. You might have had better luck just asking her to tag along to do something, make it more casual. You put the "date" expectancy on there and there's too much pressure or it makes her unfaithful to her boyfriend. Should have just tried to keep it casual and then escalate from there.
 

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zekko said:
Yeah, especially in this day and age, with texting, facebook, etc. people give out there numbers for all sorts of reasons. Your girl may have just been being friendly, or social. or just wanting some attention.

I agree with thewickedm in that you were too upfront about asking for a date. You might have had better luck just asking her to tag along to do something, make it more casual. You put the "date" expectancy on there and there's too much pressure or it makes her unfaithful to her boyfriend. Should have just tried to keep it casual and then escalate from there.
Damn. **** this guy then. LOL

So, should I just next it then? I mean, she is pretty cute. She's just a girl though. Or should I wait and reapproach?
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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So, should I just next it? I mean, she's pretty cute. What do you guys say?

And next time I'm asking a girl out, how should I phrase it? "Yo, let's hang out"?
 

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supCALI said:
And next time I'm asking a girl out, how should I phrase it? "Yo, let's hang out"?
"Let's grab a drink on Wednesday. I know a place you'll like."

Anything besides "Let's go on a date!!" It just sounds so serious and pressure-filled.
 

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Yeah, that makes sense. I'll do that next time, thanks.

So is this game over for me with this HB or do I have another shot at that ass?
 

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Once I was in McDonalds. My car key broke so I had to spend some time there, waiting for my brother with spare set of keys. meanwhile SWAT arrived arresting some gangsters in a parking lot across the street. No kidding.
I'm at my best mood/game when shyt hits the fan. And there was this extremely cute girl behind counter. Well, we talked and she was sending buying signals like fakking jumbo jet...curling her hair and shyt.... I was in a hurry and since I wasn't exactly Dj back then... I didn't escalate or asked for a number.

But my brother told me "Man she was just having orgasm talking with you." So I said fakk it, I'm going back. I did. Took her number. And some days later I texted her to go out with me in town to see a fireworks.

Well, the answer was "At this number there is none of that name, dude. You have the wrong number."

So either she gave me false number, flaked or her bf took the message. Bummer.:D

Just funny story to cheer you up.

My advice...don't mention the word "date" next time. And if she asks if it is a date (shyt test alarm), tell her "Absolutely not. I don't even know you, woman."

If she mentions bf, pretend that you misheard bf for herpes and ask her "Is it contagious?"
 

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LoL @ those lines.

But yeah, like I said guys, this is a hot piece of ass. Should I just next it? Or can I more or less rebound?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Nice write up man.

I like this idea of "confident persistence" as opposed to "AFC desperation" (both I believe are separate).

In a "confident persistence" sort of way, how do you guys think I can continue this and end up bedding this chick?

Details of note: I see her Tuesdays and Thursdays in a class of mine. Talked, similar political interests and such.
 

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To be brutally honest bro, you're placing too much importance on this chick, judging from the number of times you asked us whether you still have a shot at tapping that behind;) the only way you're gonna spike some interest in her is to game some other women and work on yourself, eventually she may or may not come to realise how much she is missing out on. That being said, if she does not realise it, she probably didn't give a hoot abt u to start with and you just saved yourself a whole lot of self doubt and heartache:) just my two cents worth!

A dj always has a chance at that behind, just as long as he kills that desperation to do so and not bungle things up more:) peace.
 

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Aight, it's all good man. Just saying though, it's some nice tail. LoL. What you said is what I planned to do anyway. But if there was a straight up, no nonsense way to get at that ass, I sure would do it.

Any input welcome.
 

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This is where texting has an advantage. Its informal and easy.

Tell the guys that say texting is always bad to smoke a ****.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Tell the guys that say texting is always bad to smoke a ****.
Meanwhile, the guy who IS texting her casually ends up stealing his girlfriend.
 
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