"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Got the number of girl, but call and "I have a boyfriend"?

supCALI

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Sup guys, first post here. Just want to see that I love this place and the DJ bible. Great stuff, it's helped me a lot.

So I'm in college and there's this chick I was digging, maybe... a HB7.5 or 8? Anyway, she was pretty cute, so I asked for her number and she gave it to me, easy as pie. Friday, I call her up. I say straight up that I'm calling to ask her out on a date. Then...

"Ooh... I have a boyfriend. I'm sorry."
Me: "It's okay. Peace."

and then I hung up.

Now, I'm glad I did this, and I'm not hung up on it. I view it as a learning experience, more time in the field improving. But to get even more out of this, I wanted to know if there was an answer to why she gave me her number if she had a boyfriend? That just doesn't click with me.

Thanks guys.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Hmm, in general college is a social place. And in where I come from, people exchange numbers freely in school. I'm guessing you put her on the guard by telling her too directly that you are taking her out on a date, triggering some unknown mechanism in her brain that causes her to mention her boyfriend, whether or not he actually exists.
 

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*shrug*

I wasn't about to beat around the bush. You may be right though. In this case, this is a community college. Which, unlike the name, isn't as social a place as a university. Girls understand that if you ask for their number, you're asking for dating reasons.
 

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where I come from, people exchange numbers freely
Yeah, especially in this day and age, with texting, facebook, etc. people give out there numbers for all sorts of reasons. Your girl may have just been being friendly, or social. or just wanting some attention.

I agree with thewickedm in that you were too upfront about asking for a date. You might have had better luck just asking her to tag along to do something, make it more casual. You put the "date" expectancy on there and there's too much pressure or it makes her unfaithful to her boyfriend. Should have just tried to keep it casual and then escalate from there.
 

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zekko said:
Yeah, especially in this day and age, with texting, facebook, etc. people give out there numbers for all sorts of reasons. Your girl may have just been being friendly, or social. or just wanting some attention.

I agree with thewickedm in that you were too upfront about asking for a date. You might have had better luck just asking her to tag along to do something, make it more casual. You put the "date" expectancy on there and there's too much pressure or it makes her unfaithful to her boyfriend. Should have just tried to keep it casual and then escalate from there.
Damn. **** this guy then. LOL

So, should I just next it then? I mean, she is pretty cute. She's just a girl though. Or should I wait and reapproach?
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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So, should I just next it? I mean, she's pretty cute. What do you guys say?

And next time I'm asking a girl out, how should I phrase it? "Yo, let's hang out"?
 

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supCALI said:
And next time I'm asking a girl out, how should I phrase it? "Yo, let's hang out"?
"Let's grab a drink on Wednesday. I know a place you'll like."

Anything besides "Let's go on a date!!" It just sounds so serious and pressure-filled.
 

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Yeah, that makes sense. I'll do that next time, thanks.

So is this game over for me with this HB or do I have another shot at that ass?
 

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Once I was in McDonalds. My car key broke so I had to spend some time there, waiting for my brother with spare set of keys. meanwhile SWAT arrived arresting some gangsters in a parking lot across the street. No kidding.
I'm at my best mood/game when shyt hits the fan. And there was this extremely cute girl behind counter. Well, we talked and she was sending buying signals like fakking jumbo jet...curling her hair and shyt.... I was in a hurry and since I wasn't exactly Dj back then... I didn't escalate or asked for a number.

But my brother told me "Man she was just having orgasm talking with you." So I said fakk it, I'm going back. I did. Took her number. And some days later I texted her to go out with me in town to see a fireworks.

Well, the answer was "At this number there is none of that name, dude. You have the wrong number."

So either she gave me false number, flaked or her bf took the message. Bummer.:D

Just funny story to cheer you up.

My advice...don't mention the word "date" next time. And if she asks if it is a date (shyt test alarm), tell her "Absolutely not. I don't even know you, woman."

If she mentions bf, pretend that you misheard bf for herpes and ask her "Is it contagious?"
 

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LoL @ those lines.

But yeah, like I said guys, this is a hot piece of ass. Should I just next it? Or can I more or less rebound?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Nice write up man.

I like this idea of "confident persistence" as opposed to "AFC desperation" (both I believe are separate).

In a "confident persistence" sort of way, how do you guys think I can continue this and end up bedding this chick?

Details of note: I see her Tuesdays and Thursdays in a class of mine. Talked, similar political interests and such.
 

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To be brutally honest bro, you're placing too much importance on this chick, judging from the number of times you asked us whether you still have a shot at tapping that behind;) the only way you're gonna spike some interest in her is to game some other women and work on yourself, eventually she may or may not come to realise how much she is missing out on. That being said, if she does not realise it, she probably didn't give a hoot abt u to start with and you just saved yourself a whole lot of self doubt and heartache:) just my two cents worth!

A dj always has a chance at that behind, just as long as he kills that desperation to do so and not bungle things up more:) peace.
 

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Aight, it's all good man. Just saying though, it's some nice tail. LoL. What you said is what I planned to do anyway. But if there was a straight up, no nonsense way to get at that ass, I sure would do it.

Any input welcome.
 

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This is where texting has an advantage. Its informal and easy.

Tell the guys that say texting is always bad to smoke a ****.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Tell the guys that say texting is always bad to smoke a ****.
Meanwhile, the guy who IS texting her casually ends up stealing his girlfriend.
 
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