"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Got a Drink Thrown at Me

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I was doing my nightime sarging at this bar when I came across this 3 set (1 guy and 2 chicks). The guy I already knew so I did not need any opener to start chatting with them. So as I am in, the guy is teasing the HB8 about her weight. He was saying that she is so fat that she can barely fit her ass on the bar stool. Then he asks me what I think. Now to avoid appearing as a Nice Guy, I decided to throw in a Neg. I said maybe she should join a gym. Now everybody in the group started laughing and she got so pissed that she threw her drink at me. I leave pretty soon afterwards and tell the guy that he should send that girl to Anger Management. I do not want to overanalyze the situation, but would love to hear how I could have handled this situation better.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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BadJadder said:
I was doing my nightime sarging at this bar when I came across this 3 set (1 guy and 2 chicks). The guy I already knew so I did not need any opener to start chatting with them. So as I am in, the guy is teasing the HB8 about her weight. He was saying that she is so fat that she can barely fit her ass on the bar stool. Then he asks me what I think. Now to avoid appearing as a Nice Guy, I decided to throw in a Neg. I said maybe she should join a gym. Now everybody in the group started laughing and she got so pissed that she threw her drink at me. I leave pretty soon afterwards and tell the guy that he should send that girl to Anger Management. I do not want to overanalyze the situation, but would love to hear how I could have handled this situation better.
Ouch. im no expert, but that seems like ur trying too hard to be a jerk. Theres no reason to insult people. Just dont be too nice, isnt that the key?
 

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BadJadder said:
I was doing my nightime sarging at this bar when I came across this 3 set (1 guy and 2 chicks). The guy I already knew so I did not need any opener to start chatting with them. So as I am in, the guy is teasing the HB8 about her weight. He was saying that she is so fat that she can barely fit her ass on the bar stool. Then he asks me what I think. Now to avoid appearing as a Nice Guy, I decided to throw in a Neg. I said maybe she should join a gym. Now everybody in the group started laughing and she got so pissed that she threw her drink at me. I leave pretty soon afterwards and tell the guy that he should send that girl to Anger Management. I do not want to overanalyze the situation, but would love to hear how I could have handled this situation better.
Ouch. im no expert, but that seems like ur trying too hard to be a jerk. Theres no reason to insult people. Just dont be too nice, isnt that the key?
 

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BadJadder said:
...Then he asks me what I think. Now to avoid appearing as a Nice Guy, I decided to throw in a Neg. I said maybe she should join a gym. Now everybody in the group started laughing...
<confusion>
Is there something you're not telling us?
Your line, while being a Neg, and maybe a
little uncalled for, was not really that clever
and it sure as hell wasn't funny enough to
get the whole group laughing unless they were
stoned as shyt.
 

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hahaha , funny man , but one thing ive learned NEVER EVER neg about the weight , do the hair the eyes the nose everything else exept the weight...
its like a girl saying that your dic\k is too small to a male....

but also i guess you should work on your c/f more =P

but anyways gave me a smile for today....
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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insidious said:
<confusion>
Is there something you're not telling us?
Your line, while being a Neg, and maybe a
little uncalled for, was not really that clever
and it sure as hell wasn't funny enough to
get the whole group laughing unless they were
stoned as shyt.
I guess it was funny to them because I was an outsider and I kinda validated their teasing of her being fat. Now before that comment I did not have a chance to say anything to the girl and I was hoping that the neg will lead me somewhere if she hadn't acted so negative about it.
 

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That wasn't a neg, it was an insult. Her friend was teasing her, so I would have said something the opposite like a compliment on her clothes. Or better yet, negged your mate.

Oh well don't worry about it. It's a story to tell and she'll remember you that's for sure.
 

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Amog.
 
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Negging is dumb. The reason most guys neg is to try lower her value level, down to his own.
 

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good frickin goodness,

yeah, negging on something as personal as weight is to a girl is ludicrous. your friend is exercising ridiculous judgment by going down that road and it was a mistake for you to follow. literally blind leading blind.

a lot of the cheerleaders for negging really really really don't get how insecure MOST GIRLS are! some of the examples i've read for how you're "supposed" to neg would result in an awful lot of drinks being thrown.

heck, even negging girls on trivial shyt will get you in trouble most of the time (but if you're gonna neg, this is where you go for it).

i think the idea might be NEVER TO NEG SOMETHING THAT THEY ARE (OR MAY BE) INSECURE ABOUT!

neg something that they are supremely confident about and know that most people agree with her.... maybe then you got a shot.

anyway, the idea is to demonstrate that you are not afraid of her (THAT IS THE ESSENTIAL POINT). you are not trying to make her rethink anything about the state of her life.

delta
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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dood, you straight up DISSED her hahaha.
 

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Her response was pretty appropriate.

Don't talk about weight at all. Drop it from your vocabulary. No one likes being called fat.
 

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LOL, hahaha that's hillarious! Lol, too top it off, you should have finished with

'Wow, now we're both wet.'
 

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Me at 25:

"I think this chick is fat, what do you think?"

"I think you talk too much."

Me at 39:

"I think this chick is fat, what do you think?"

"I think I'll have a shot of tequila."
 

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GirlCrazy said:
Me at 25:

"I think this chick is fat, what do you think?"

"I think you talk too much."

Me at 39:

"I think this chick is fat, what do you think?"

"I think I'll have a shot of tequila."
LOL

Serously though, seduction is about making Women feel good when they are in your presence, not bad.

That's why things like negs are stupid, and are usually done by those with lower value in a pathetic attempt to lower her value down to their own level.

Might work with some LSE party girls, but most women can see right thru this pathetic gimmick.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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oki i think he gets it now , dont need 20 more new posts from different guys stating the same thing O..o
 

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man you are fcvking idiot... its damn insulting the girl...in this situation everybody would get wrong man..men or women does not matter... thats why most of you guys messing up with girls.. you dont know when to talk, how to talk whatsoever... if you have told her something good, she would appreciate with you.. learn from your mistakes..
 

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A better answer would have been along the lines of how you can't tell until you've seen her naked.
 

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The neg-hitting concept is stupid. Read Leil Lownes' book How to Talk to Anyone. You should never ever tease someone at their expense unless you can do so in a way that is not offensive.
 

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Neg Hitting is only to be used in very specific situations.

It's amazing to me how difficult it seems to be for most guys to understand this. Even a few old-timers here really don't understand when and why to use one.

If you don't know, read the bible or Google "neg hit".
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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