"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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will get you laid quicker than good looking and ****y.

fact.

c&f is for below average dudes.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Snowman23 said:
will get you laid quicker than good looking and ****y.

fact.

c&f is for below average dudes.
amen.
 

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your opinion is wrong.

if you can recognize what's wrong with the above sentence then you can recongize what's wrong with your post.
 

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Good looking with a degree of arrogance (maybe not to the exaggerated level of C and F) usually works the best. (And yes, I've had it both ways.)
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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it only helps at the start. but your personality has to finish it off. if you ain't gone one you're doomed.
 

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snowdog said:
I'm a good looking guy, and I'm nice. Yet I didn't get laid yet and I'm almost 22...
I'm a marginally good looking guy (as in I have to have the right haircut, shave, clothes, etc. if I want to have any chance of looking good). Throughout high school I had no clue how to use body language (I'd openly stare at girls I liked), sometimes went days without bathing or shaving, and had the whole drama club convinced I was the reincarnation of Jeffery Dahmer.

If I came back from all of that and got laid at 20, you can do it, man...I just talk to everyone and have an endlessly sarcastic sense of humor.
 

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snowdog said:
I'm a good looking guy, and I'm nice. Yet I didn't get laid yet and I'm almost 22...
If you didn't get laid yet so why are you dishing out advice that being nice and good looking is the key to get laid??!! This is the kind of crap (no offence) that is being spewed to nice guys by HB's, to make AFC's feel better about themselves. Then those HB's go to a club and get picked up by a smooth talking C&F playa who takes them to the back of the alley for a BJ before taking them home.

C&F has many purposes that will elevate your game beyond looks.

Women like Men with confidence and the right mix of C&F will help to convey that message. It shows that you ain't afraid of her, you make her feel good in your presence and you actually have some type of personality. A good sense of humor also shows that you are a hip guy that likes to have a good time, has some intelligence and doesn't take himself too seriously.

Your looks will take you to a certain distance but combine that with a killer personality, it will take you much farther.
 

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You can be good-looking and nice and get some. The answer doesn't lie in being "ALPHA," really. It just requires a little balls from time to time. (Being alpha doesn't hurt your chances at all though).
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It's possible to be good looking, ****y and nice...

If you are ****y, that doesn't mean you are arrogant or not a gentleman, it means you have a sense of humour and self-respect/belief.
 

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Good looking and nice is my style. I tried ****y/funny for a long time, but it didn't go over well at all. The advice I got here was that if you are too good looking, if you are ****y on top of that, it just comes off as really arrogant.

Which is still a problem for me, being perceived as arrogant.
 

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I love your post snowboy, especially the " fact. " part.

ooh let me try!!

You are a phag.

fact.
 

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Oh yea i forgot to add something:

dweebs like you also tend to write: "Lets face it..."

sosuave always puts a smile on my face.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Deacon said:
You can be good-looking and nice and get some. The answer doesn't lie in being "ALPHA," really. It just requires a little balls from time to time. (Being alpha doesn't hurt your chances at all though).
+1

We should be advocating nice behavior on SoSuave. It actually works.
 

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DJDamage said:
If you didn't get laid yet so why are you dishing out advice that being nice and good looking is the key to get laid??!! This is the kind of crap (no offence) that is being spewed to nice guys by HB's, to make AFC's feel better about themselves.
Uh... dude, I didn't make the first post. So I don't know why you're talking sh*t to me now. If you read my post carefully you'll come to the conclusion that I disagree with that statement as well.


EDIT: Haha, now I understand. The starter of this thread is called snowman. There's a difference in a man and a dog, dude. haha ;)

I'm a marginally good looking guy (as in I have to have the right haircut, shave, clothes, etc. if I want to have any chance of looking good). Throughout high school I had no clue how to use body language (I'd openly stare at girls I liked), sometimes went days without bathing or shaving, and had the whole drama club convinced I was the reincarnation of Jeffery Dahmer.

If I came back from all of that and got laid at 20, you can do it, man...I just talk to everyone and have an endlessly sarcastic sense of humor.
Thanks man, I'm well on my way. Check out the link in my sig.
 

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this is so dumb, its obvious that women like different things.
some women will like good looking guys that are nice and some women will like good looking bad guys that is funny and ****y.
 

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snowdog said:
Uh... dude, I didn't make the first post. So I don't know why you're talking sh*t to me now. If you read my post carefully you'll come to the conclusion that I disagree with that statement as well.


EDIT: Haha, now I understand. The starter of this thread is called snowman. There's a difference in a man and a dog, dude. haha ;)
Oops my bad :D
 
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