"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Snowman23

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will get you laid quicker than good looking and ****y.

fact.

c&f is for below average dudes.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Snowman23 said:
will get you laid quicker than good looking and ****y.

fact.

c&f is for below average dudes.
amen.
 

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your opinion is wrong.

if you can recognize what's wrong with the above sentence then you can recongize what's wrong with your post.
 

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Good looking with a degree of arrogance (maybe not to the exaggerated level of C and F) usually works the best. (And yes, I've had it both ways.)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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it only helps at the start. but your personality has to finish it off. if you ain't gone one you're doomed.
 

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snowdog said:
I'm a good looking guy, and I'm nice. Yet I didn't get laid yet and I'm almost 22...
I'm a marginally good looking guy (as in I have to have the right haircut, shave, clothes, etc. if I want to have any chance of looking good). Throughout high school I had no clue how to use body language (I'd openly stare at girls I liked), sometimes went days without bathing or shaving, and had the whole drama club convinced I was the reincarnation of Jeffery Dahmer.

If I came back from all of that and got laid at 20, you can do it, man...I just talk to everyone and have an endlessly sarcastic sense of humor.
 

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snowdog said:
I'm a good looking guy, and I'm nice. Yet I didn't get laid yet and I'm almost 22...
If you didn't get laid yet so why are you dishing out advice that being nice and good looking is the key to get laid??!! This is the kind of crap (no offence) that is being spewed to nice guys by HB's, to make AFC's feel better about themselves. Then those HB's go to a club and get picked up by a smooth talking C&F playa who takes them to the back of the alley for a BJ before taking them home.

C&F has many purposes that will elevate your game beyond looks.

Women like Men with confidence and the right mix of C&F will help to convey that message. It shows that you ain't afraid of her, you make her feel good in your presence and you actually have some type of personality. A good sense of humor also shows that you are a hip guy that likes to have a good time, has some intelligence and doesn't take himself too seriously.

Your looks will take you to a certain distance but combine that with a killer personality, it will take you much farther.
 

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You can be good-looking and nice and get some. The answer doesn't lie in being "ALPHA," really. It just requires a little balls from time to time. (Being alpha doesn't hurt your chances at all though).
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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It's possible to be good looking, ****y and nice...

If you are ****y, that doesn't mean you are arrogant or not a gentleman, it means you have a sense of humour and self-respect/belief.
 

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Good looking and nice is my style. I tried ****y/funny for a long time, but it didn't go over well at all. The advice I got here was that if you are too good looking, if you are ****y on top of that, it just comes off as really arrogant.

Which is still a problem for me, being perceived as arrogant.
 

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I love your post snowboy, especially the " fact. " part.

ooh let me try!!

You are a phag.

fact.
 

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Oh yea i forgot to add something:

dweebs like you also tend to write: "Lets face it..."

sosuave always puts a smile on my face.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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The Deacon said:
You can be good-looking and nice and get some. The answer doesn't lie in being "ALPHA," really. It just requires a little balls from time to time. (Being alpha doesn't hurt your chances at all though).
+1

We should be advocating nice behavior on SoSuave. It actually works.
 

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DJDamage said:
If you didn't get laid yet so why are you dishing out advice that being nice and good looking is the key to get laid??!! This is the kind of crap (no offence) that is being spewed to nice guys by HB's, to make AFC's feel better about themselves.
Uh... dude, I didn't make the first post. So I don't know why you're talking sh*t to me now. If you read my post carefully you'll come to the conclusion that I disagree with that statement as well.


EDIT: Haha, now I understand. The starter of this thread is called snowman. There's a difference in a man and a dog, dude. haha ;)

I'm a marginally good looking guy (as in I have to have the right haircut, shave, clothes, etc. if I want to have any chance of looking good). Throughout high school I had no clue how to use body language (I'd openly stare at girls I liked), sometimes went days without bathing or shaving, and had the whole drama club convinced I was the reincarnation of Jeffery Dahmer.

If I came back from all of that and got laid at 20, you can do it, man...I just talk to everyone and have an endlessly sarcastic sense of humor.
Thanks man, I'm well on my way. Check out the link in my sig.
 

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this is so dumb, its obvious that women like different things.
some women will like good looking guys that are nice and some women will like good looking bad guys that is funny and ****y.
 

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snowdog said:
Uh... dude, I didn't make the first post. So I don't know why you're talking sh*t to me now. If you read my post carefully you'll come to the conclusion that I disagree with that statement as well.


EDIT: Haha, now I understand. The starter of this thread is called snowman. There's a difference in a man and a dog, dude. haha ;)
Oops my bad :D
 
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