Dante420
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....Great connection. she thinks she's a lesbian. She said last time she kissed a guy she couldn't get that feeling in her stomach
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Good connection but couldn't get kiss on date, got shot down
- Thread starter Dante420
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
That is womanspeak for," I am not attracted to you, and the thought of kissing you does not excite me at all ."
A woman who tells you that she thinks that she is a lesbian is telling you that you and she are not going to hook up .
Dante - woman transmit messages to guys indirectly in a kind of code . I think that your receiver is broken.
How and why can you possibly believe that you and she had a "great connection" and then write that she declined/refused to kiss you and you "got shot down" . Can anyone else see the contradiction here ?
A woman who tells you that she thinks that she is a lesbian is telling you that you and she are not going to hook up .
Dante - woman transmit messages to guys indirectly in a kind of code . I think that your receiver is broken.
How and why can you possibly believe that you and she had a "great connection" and then write that she declined/refused to kiss you and you "got shot down" . Can anyone else see the contradiction here ?
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
So? Stop bothering with this girl and move on to the next one. Seriously, if she believes that she is a lesbian, then there is absolutely no point in proceeding.
Why are you posting this? Are you trying to get feedback on this? Well, simple, next girl. What point is there in pursueing a girl that believes she is lesbian? Hell, she probably doesn't know squat about love, "that feeling in her stomach?"
Why are you posting this? Are you trying to get feedback on this? Well, simple, next girl. What point is there in pursueing a girl that believes she is lesbian? Hell, she probably doesn't know squat about love, "that feeling in her stomach?"
Kailex
Master Don Juan
There was NO connection.
Unless you meant the FRIEND connection.
Then there was one.
She accepted to go out with you on a date and then when you tried to kiss her, she said she thinks she's a lesbian? Really?
After she had a chance to go out with you and realized she wasn't into you, she conviniently became a tweener lesbian.
I just hope you didn't spend any money on that date.
Unless you meant the FRIEND connection.
Then there was one.
She accepted to go out with you on a date and then when you tried to kiss her, she said she thinks she's a lesbian? Really?
After she had a chance to go out with you and realized she wasn't into you, she conviniently became a tweener lesbian.
I just hope you didn't spend any money on that date.
Mike32ct
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I've been on many dates where I thought we had a connection. We'd have a great conversation, some good laughs, etc. But at the end of the date, no kiss and no returned phone calls when I would try to follow up. Remember women are good at conversations, but it does not necessarily mean they are attracted. It's easy to be fooled and think there's a connection when they're isn't.Dante420 said:
No kiss is strike one. The "lesbian" thing is strike two. Delete her number asap.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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this isn't your diary
Dante420
Master Don Juan
She let me touch her hand and her hair and stuff whenever I wanted and you wouldn't believe the connection we had in the restaurant. I got her talking about stuff she was passionate about..........I just need help verbally putting sexual escalation to the vibe before I go in for the kiss. She told me when she's ready for a kiss it'll happen so I didn't get a "never". She's the most different girl I ever been around, my looks alone don't need to do the talking. I can say the right thing and act the wrong way and likewise but I just need a lil help which is why I came here. I DID invest my money in showing this girl a good time
jophil28
Master Don Juan
You already have this woman on a pedestal. She has NO interest in you.
MY guess is that she will bloat her ego by playing with your emotions, and your obvious desperation, and then shoot you dead when she has had enough fun with you.
MY guess is that she will bloat her ego by playing with your emotions, and your obvious desperation, and then shoot you dead when she has had enough fun with you.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
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^^^This.jophil28 said:
If you want to have better success on dates, you need to change your attitude.
Stop trying to please them and worrying about whether they like you, and just have FUN. Learn to see women as a source of amusement, rather than forcing a "connection" with them.
Matter of fact, don't even take women on "dates," in the traditional sense. Save your money and just invite them to hang out with you while you go about your business. If you do everyday type things with them, they will NATURALLY feel more "connected" to you, because that is what boyfriends and girlfriends do---ordinary things!
I've asked girls to run errands with me many times as a "date," and all of them have been into it except the high maintenance ones. Why? Because it's DIFFERENT. It shows that you have no need to try to impress them or put on airs, which is what traditional dating is all about.
Drop this girl for now...why are you dating a lesbian?? Find a new one and treat her MUCH more casually.
Diaforetikos
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BA BOW BOW BOWBOW BOW. Thats the sound of you getting shot down.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
He already got mortally wounded with a shotgun-caliber buckshot.jophil28 said:
She told him that she might be a lesbian.
There's no way she comes back from that to being in a relationship with him. He has a better chance with that doctor that gave him beer and lured him into his car at the beach a few months ago.
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Damn Sage Kailex! Adding insult to injury!Kailex said:
Still I hope the OP listens to you and jophil. This girl just wasn't that into you.
Case closed. Move on.
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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
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Translation: im not physically attracted enough to you to kiss or F you.... I am kissing and Fing many other guys who are not you.Dante420 said: