Dante420
Master Don Juan
....Great connection. she thinks she's a lesbian. She said last time she kissed a guy she couldn't get that feeling in her stomach
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Good connection but couldn't get kiss on date, got shot down
- Thread starter Dante420
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
jophil28
Master Don Juan
That is womanspeak for," I am not attracted to you, and the thought of kissing you does not excite me at all ."
A woman who tells you that she thinks that she is a lesbian is telling you that you and she are not going to hook up .
Dante - woman transmit messages to guys indirectly in a kind of code . I think that your receiver is broken.
How and why can you possibly believe that you and she had a "great connection" and then write that she declined/refused to kiss you and you "got shot down" . Can anyone else see the contradiction here ?
A woman who tells you that she thinks that she is a lesbian is telling you that you and she are not going to hook up .
Dante - woman transmit messages to guys indirectly in a kind of code . I think that your receiver is broken.
How and why can you possibly believe that you and she had a "great connection" and then write that she declined/refused to kiss you and you "got shot down" . Can anyone else see the contradiction here ?
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
So? Stop bothering with this girl and move on to the next one. Seriously, if she believes that she is a lesbian, then there is absolutely no point in proceeding.
Why are you posting this? Are you trying to get feedback on this? Well, simple, next girl. What point is there in pursueing a girl that believes she is lesbian? Hell, she probably doesn't know squat about love, "that feeling in her stomach?"
Why are you posting this? Are you trying to get feedback on this? Well, simple, next girl. What point is there in pursueing a girl that believes she is lesbian? Hell, she probably doesn't know squat about love, "that feeling in her stomach?"
Kailex
Master Don Juan
There was NO connection.
Unless you meant the FRIEND connection.
Then there was one.
She accepted to go out with you on a date and then when you tried to kiss her, she said she thinks she's a lesbian? Really?
After she had a chance to go out with you and realized she wasn't into you, she conviniently became a tweener lesbian.
I just hope you didn't spend any money on that date.
Unless you meant the FRIEND connection.
Then there was one.
She accepted to go out with you on a date and then when you tried to kiss her, she said she thinks she's a lesbian? Really?
After she had a chance to go out with you and realized she wasn't into you, she conviniently became a tweener lesbian.
I just hope you didn't spend any money on that date.
Mike32ct
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I've been on many dates where I thought we had a connection. We'd have a great conversation, some good laughs, etc. But at the end of the date, no kiss and no returned phone calls when I would try to follow up. Remember women are good at conversations, but it does not necessarily mean they are attracted. It's easy to be fooled and think there's a connection when they're isn't.Dante420 said:
No kiss is strike one. The "lesbian" thing is strike two. Delete her number asap.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
iliketennis
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this isn't your diary
Dante420
Master Don Juan
She let me touch her hand and her hair and stuff whenever I wanted and you wouldn't believe the connection we had in the restaurant. I got her talking about stuff she was passionate about..........I just need help verbally putting sexual escalation to the vibe before I go in for the kiss. She told me when she's ready for a kiss it'll happen so I didn't get a "never". She's the most different girl I ever been around, my looks alone don't need to do the talking. I can say the right thing and act the wrong way and likewise but I just need a lil help which is why I came here. I DID invest my money in showing this girl a good time
jophil28
Master Don Juan
You already have this woman on a pedestal. She has NO interest in you.
MY guess is that she will bloat her ego by playing with your emotions, and your obvious desperation, and then shoot you dead when she has had enough fun with you.
MY guess is that she will bloat her ego by playing with your emotions, and your obvious desperation, and then shoot you dead when she has had enough fun with you.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Jeffst1980
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^^^This.jophil28 said:
If you want to have better success on dates, you need to change your attitude.
Stop trying to please them and worrying about whether they like you, and just have FUN. Learn to see women as a source of amusement, rather than forcing a "connection" with them.
Matter of fact, don't even take women on "dates," in the traditional sense. Save your money and just invite them to hang out with you while you go about your business. If you do everyday type things with them, they will NATURALLY feel more "connected" to you, because that is what boyfriends and girlfriends do---ordinary things!
I've asked girls to run errands with me many times as a "date," and all of them have been into it except the high maintenance ones. Why? Because it's DIFFERENT. It shows that you have no need to try to impress them or put on airs, which is what traditional dating is all about.
Drop this girl for now...why are you dating a lesbian?? Find a new one and treat her MUCH more casually.
Diaforetikos
Senior Don Juan
BA BOW BOW BOWBOW BOW. Thats the sound of you getting shot down.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
He already got mortally wounded with a shotgun-caliber buckshot.jophil28 said:
She told him that she might be a lesbian.
There's no way she comes back from that to being in a relationship with him. He has a better chance with that doctor that gave him beer and lured him into his car at the beach a few months ago.
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Damn Sage Kailex! Adding insult to injury!Kailex said:
Still I hope the OP listens to you and jophil. This girl just wasn't that into you.
Case closed. Move on.
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
DonGorgon
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Translation: im not physically attracted enough to you to kiss or F you.... I am kissing and Fing many other guys who are not you.Dante420 said: