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Good comebacks when older women point out the age difference?

muse

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I get gig at bars and parties and meet older women (mid to late 20's to early 30's) that way. They've showed very high interest levels, but sometimes they pull back after they ask my age. I'm 23.

So what are good responses? Sometimes there's the wild 30 year old, sometimes only a couple years older, so what would be good in those situations.
 

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You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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abcd_z

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Similar situation

I've been in a similar situation. I'm 17, and I asked a 19-year old out. She said that a 2-year difference was too much for her to surmount. :rolleyes: I'm still recovering from AFC behaviour myself, which was probably why I got rejected. Anyways, I'd also like to know something C+F I could have said in that situation.
 

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Age is just a number..

Remember it's not WHAT you say, but HOW you say it. If you say the best response you can think of in a wierd way, your done.
 

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"SO you will get wrinkly first.......big deal"
 

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Make sure you convey that you are doing the selecting in the relationship, if not, you will come across as supplicating - so here's one:

her:"You know, I'm 10 years older than you."
you: "Right, I usually don't date older women, but i'll might make an exception in your case."

kairos
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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kairos

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Make sure you convey that you are doing the selecting in the relationship, if not, you will come across as supplicating - so here's one:

her:"You know, I'm 10 years older than you."
you: "Right, I usually don't date older women, but Il might make an exception in your case."

kairos
 

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Make sure you convey that you are doing the selecting in the relationship, if not, you will come across as supplicating - so here's one:

her:"You know, I'm 10 years older than you."
you: "Right, I usually don't date older women, but I might make an exception in your case."

kairos
 

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this 21yr old thought i looked 17

i told her really? is that cuz i'm young and virile?

she said "young and innocent ;)" and i gave her a scandelous grin

this one worked in my favour
 

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i'd say the best bet is to look older than your actual age?

almost everyone i run into assume that im in my early 20's.
then they're just shocked to hear what my real age is...i dont know if it's a disappointment or a surprise for them.

one time my professor asked if i wanted to go drinking, then i told him i was still underaged lol, shouldnt have told him.
 

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Heh, if she pulls back when you tell her your age, just say something along the lines of, "Why, does that indimidate you?"

Now we all know YOU'RE the one who's supposed to be intimidated at the older woman, but chances are if she's pulling back when you tell her your age, SHE is feeling a bit intimidated, too. But this puts you in control. :)

Older women are no different.
 

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Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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Tell her that in a few decades you'll be 61 and she'll be 67, so it doesn't matter much, does it?
 

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"theres a 10 year age difference between us"
"youre too young"
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response: "yeah im guess you probably wouldnt be able to keep with me :)"
 
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