KneghtRyder
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
good article: Do Women Really Want to be Friends First?
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
comic_relief
Master Don Juan
good article and surmises my way of going after women. I come in as a person trying to make a genuine human relationship, and if I deem her worthy of a relationship it is time to make her jump the hoops. If she manages to jump the hoops, which 90% of women don't make it through (long term relationship with a brain and her own opinions). Then I will give her a relationships, while the rest are good for sex or a friendship and that is it.
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penkitten
Master Don Juan
i didnt read the article but i wanted to offer this anyhow:
we just want you to be friendly.
there is a big difference between friends and being friendly before you start dating.
we just want you to be friendly.
there is a big difference between friends and being friendly before you start dating.
Bonhomme
Master Don Juan
"Friends first" is essentially a way of discouraging clueless fellows from making unwelcome moves.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
knglerxt
Senior Don Juan
"On the other hand, she won't go up to a stranger and ask for sex, because a stranger could very well be dangerous."
I don't agree with this part of the article. I think the main reason women don't do this is the fact that it's not socially acceptable behavior. Heck, 99% of the men out there won't even go up to a strange woman and ask for sex. It's just not something that people do.
I don't agree with this part of the article. I think the main reason women don't do this is the fact that it's not socially acceptable behavior. Heck, 99% of the men out there won't even go up to a strange woman and ask for sex. It's just not something that people do.
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
Most of the "seduction information" relating to friendships and sex is really dated. That sh!t might have applied to 30 year old women in the 90's, but this is 2007. Young women have sex with their friends all the time these days.
Serialized3
Master Don Juan
I'm pretty much the same way. I feel it's best just to try to enjoy a person for who they are, rather than objectifying them into some role or expectation. And you know what's up when it comes to sex with girls that respect you and know you for who you really are.comic_relief said:
Props man. Good to see another fellow who gets it.
