Never thought it would come to this haha. Working night shift with only weeknights off every week is just killing my social life in general. I have no idea how to do internet dating, especially being a little older. Any tips?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Clear current pictures, no fish, no cars.SamMalone said:Never thought it would come to this haha. Working night shift with only weeknights off every week is just killing my social life in general. I have no idea how to do internet dating, especially being a little older. Any tips?
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
bradd80 said:Try to get three or four of the absolute most rocking photos of yourself you can possibly get. Have a profile body that is short and sweet.. funny but also with a serious side that shows that you (a) have a good job and (b) are looking for dating. If you have a profile that is too "who gives a f*ck" then the vast majority of women who look at your profile will not take you seriously. Not that you have to be serious about dating yourself, but you're better off pretending that you are as that's what the majority of women online claim to be looking for.
Here's some more tips:
1. Have a headline that is short, funny, and eye catching. Something like "are you hitting on me" or "im really picky.. but good luck!"
2. include in your first date something alluring or funny, such as "international crime spree" or "i like to be wined and dined" etc you get the idea
3. avoid including a pic of you without a shirt, any pic without a shirt, but include photos of you wearing clothes that reveal your muscular physique if you have one
4. mass spam women with funny first emails, and try to include something personal about their profile
Keep in mind that online dating is EXTREMELY frustrating. You will go on dozens of dead end dates for every one or two rather average looking women you will end up banging. I bag a few 9's here and there, but it's almost always when they have msged me first. Don't take it personally, online dating for women is kind of like when we go to a restaurant and have to pick from a menu: we are deluged with so many choices we invariably end up picking the wrong dish.
It's easier (in a way) than picking up women in real life, but that's why the returns are not nearly as profitable. Prepare to waste a lot of time with women who are crazy/still in love/have kids and are online just to prop up their own fragile egos. If you follow this advice, you will get laid here and there. But if you're looking for a normal relationship with a healthy, stable woman, then online dating is the wrong place for you to be.
Now while i find Naughty ninja's pof suggestions as funny as anyone else here, i have found through trial and error that they are not the most effective means of dating online. They will get a lot of responses, but i find that his tips tend to attract the wrong types of women ie women who are just out to have a few laughs with you while wasting your time and having no intention of meeting up with you.
Best of luck and let us know how it goes!
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Why can't you go into detail? I would like to see the profile...Howiestern said:I found a ton of success when I created a profile that was 110% different from all the others. It was pretty ballsy and I got a little hate mail for it. Without going into detail it was basically a bulleted list of about 15 things I had learned from women. Some of the things I listed were related to topics that are discussed here. By listing what I had learned it conveyed that I knew what I was doing with women, understood them, and could relate. I think thats why I was successful with it. It made me stand out because most guys are pretty much clueless.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
You ain't kidding. Try reading the Plenty of Fish forums sometime. Good God the amount of completely clueless foreveralones on that site is staggering...along with the 'nice' till I die WK's...and the women who B.S them with hilarious useless 'advice'. It's like putting hot pins into your retinas. No joke.Howiestern said:I found a ton of success when I created a profile that was 110% different from all the others. It was pretty ballsy and I got a little hate mail for it. Without going into detail it was basically a bulleted list of about 15 things I had learned from women. Some of the things I listed were related to topics that are discussed here. By listing what I had learned it conveyed that I knew what I was doing with women, understood them, and could relate. I think thats why I was successful with it. It made me stand out because most guys are pretty much clueless.
The return on investment from internet dating is a big waste. There is a lot of trash to sort thru so it takes a lot of looking/messaging to find someone decent.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.