"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Gonna try internet dating
- Thread starter SamMalone
- Start date
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Naughty Ninja
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Do you work out? Look good in pictures? Have a funny/serious brief profile? What types of first messages are you sending?SamMalone said:
LOOKS first.
Unique funny message and good brief profile second.
Online dating is for the bottom of the barrel chicks looking to get an ego boost by riding the best looking male c0ck carosel because 99.999% have nothing to offer in a relationship...and unfortunatley for them...it's all they know. Think of it as virtual 'cvm' dumpster diving. True story.
SecondHalf
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When I initially signed up to match.com spring 2010, my subject was...
"House broken alpha male seeks companion".
Within 24 hours I had received 200 emails and winks.
I admit my profile was smoking too (not brief btw, but funny for sure).
In the 3 months to come, my d1ck ended up looking like a piece of hamburger meat from abuse.
Use at your own discretion. It will catch the eyes (p.s. this subject line is copyrighted around Toronto Canada to moi!), so don't even think about it brad!
Really though, listen to Naughty, his humorous opinion is quite accurate!
These chicks are seminal toilets, nothing more!
SH
Naughty Ninja
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A few dudes on here are using the erotic book title: 50 Shades of GreySecondHalf said:
I thought of it after hearing about that book. Any first responders have read it or won't admit it but they're freaks who will 'ask' about it on a meet and want their a$$es spanked and to be tied up. There are LOADS of spooge recepticles on POF. The profile is mearly fluff filler that is thrown up. I ignore it and play the 'I believe you' game while never letting on that I know they're freaks.
Or you can use a well known brief quote from a popular movie or funny line from a comedian or T.V show like Family Guy etc. Something that chicks will know and pick up on immediately to attract more views and get them to respond. That site is easy work once you figure it out and ignore all the nonsense.
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
In my experience so far... much better. I want to stress the "so far" part though, because I just joined and haven't met up with anyone yet. But in the searches, the girls are much more attractive, seem much more educated, and at least seem to have more realistic expectations and intentions. I find it difficult to find anyone on POF that I would even consider meeting up with. OKCupid has been SLIGHTLY better. Match gives me cute girls all the time.SamMalone said:
Eternal_water
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http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=193595
I'm not saying I don't believe you, but I have talked to some friends of mine on Match. Two of the three I would say are much more attractive than the pics of the girl in that thread. They told me they get about 6-10 messages/day. The other is comparable to the girl from that thread, and she told me 4 or 5/day.Eternal_water said:
Something is off...
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
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As a guy I can tell you the numbers I posted were genuine.
Actual girls. And like I said, two are a lot more attractive than the one from that thread.Eternal_water said:
I just looked something up and found an VERY interesting page from OKCupid: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/the-mathematics-of-beauty/
First thing I noticed was the graph near the top. Notice how the X at the highest level of attractiveness maxed out at 120 messages in a month. That's even lower than the numbers my friends told me. And that is on a free site, which I'm sure has many more members that a pay site like Match.
Very interesting analysis of the numbers on that page...
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Dust 2 Dust
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The vast majority of women on dating sites (80-90%) won't respond to you unless you're in the top 10% of good looking men. These women are all holding out for a Brad Pitt/McDreamy lookalike because they know they don't need online dating so they'll throw up a profile hoping to bag Brad Pitt while dating other guys offline.SamMalone said:
Average looking women on these sites have tons of options while average looking men have no options. If you're an average looking guy average looking women won't respond to you for the most part. If you're a good guy looking to meet a good woman for a relationship you might as well forget it.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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Hell, even the 3's do that sh*t!!!bradd80 said:these days even the 6's and single moms act like they're the prize that needs to be worked for.. the fact that even these "undesirable" women get hit on a lot means just more woman insanity to go around for everybody
All women have options, always. Add online dating to that equation and their options are damn near infinite, and in comes the entitlement issues.
If you aren't a muscleman or a millionaire, hopefully you know how to use photoshop to put said muscles and money on your profile.
Online dating is women getting too many messages, and men getting too few replies.