Going to be another brutal summer for much of the US it appears...

[EyeBRollin]

I'm not going to listen to the opinions of the same guy who said covid was a big deal, only to be proven wrong two years after the event. You're never living that down.

1.2 millions Americans died from covid-19. Many that survived are still suffering permanent respiratory, circulatory, and brain damage. He calls this “no big deal.”

 

[SW15]

1.2 millions Americans died from covid-19. Many that survived are still suffering permanent respiratory, circulatory, and brain damage. He calls this “no big deal.”

Most unnecessarily disruptive and most politicized pandemic in human history. Least deadly pandemic in human history if deaths are measured as a percentage of the population.

Pretty soon many of these places will be uninhabitable if this continues warming at the rate it has seemingly every year being warmer than the last.

In 2023, Phoenix, Arizona had 31 consecutive days with a high temperature of 110+. The previous record was 18 consecutive days in 1974.

Yes, there are places in the United States that will be uninhabitable in the future. Phoenix is one of those.

Before air conditioning became readily available, Phoenix had a small population.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Most unnecessarily disruptive and most politicized pandemic in human history. Least deadly pandemic in human history if deaths are measured as a percentage of the population.

Why are you excusing the deaths of 1.2 million Americans?

 

[HaleyBaron]

1.2 millions Americans died from covid-19. Many that survived are still suffering permanent respiratory, circulatory, and brain damage. He calls this “no big deal.”

From vaccines.

The number of people who died compared to the year before covid was the same, if not lower. The stats proved this in the multiple threads we had. But keep living that dream where covid devastated the world. We already showed the receipt of you making that bad prediction, with a couple of others. By the way, I am still alive and healthy after ignoring everything that was fearmongered.

 

[EyeBRollin]

From vaccines.

The number of people who died compared to the year before covid was the same, if not lower. The stats proved this in the multiple threads we had. But keep living that dream where covid devastated the world. We already showed the receipt of you making that bad prediction, with a couple of others. By the way, I am still alive and healthy after ignoring everything that was fearmongered.

Nope, you are lying. Lying over the graves of 1.2 million Americans.

 

[HaleyBaron]

For everyone else who want to know the context of this conversation:

I was correct

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36715243/

www.sosuave.net

 

[EyeBRollin]

Climate change created cause of humans and Covid are/were fake hoaxes. You must be one of those insufferable liberals nobody wants to hang around with

Anthropogenic climate change and 1.2 million dead Americans due to covid-19 are established facts. Sounds like you have a difficult relationship with reality.

 

[Scaramouche]

UK has had a colder than average start to the summer.

They used to grow wine here 700 years ago but they can’t anymore. It’s been far hotter here historically.

However, the weather reports have gone up several shades of red.

I find it hard to accept that it’s a conspiracy, it’s too large.

on the other hand, there are countless examples of organisations over-egging the pudding.

My main support for green technology is surprisingly quite a right-wing one!

The world has many countries with large amounts of oil who give absolutely nothing to the development of the human race other than ignorance and corruption, yet they have fabulous wealth whereas us here have to produce things of value to pay for our oil.

The gulf states and most of the Middle East by rights should be a backwater of humanity as they have ordered their societies based on backwards religious ideas. In the normal run of things, this eventually would spur these nations to develop and change. As they’ve had artificial success based from luck essentially (without the developed world inventing combustion they would still be living in tents) they have not had to come to the modern world.

Venuzuela, Russia etc. very corrupt.

Even the United States having the dollar underpinning the worlds energy has allowed them to export inflation.

Renewable energy produced locally will benefit everyone and allow far more independence, and crucially reduce the need for resource wars, far from home.

You watch how fast these tinpot Middle East dictatorships crumble when the money hose is turned off.

Hi Fruitbat,
I try to keep an open mind on the conspiracy thing too,but it must be admitted there is a Shvit load of mazooma in the Global warming Industry and with China incorporated being the biggest exporter of renewable energy hardware you can expect lots of corruption....You're right about England being Warmer back in the Day,but other posters can equally point to bitterly cold times....Lordy in 2006 the Bering Straits froze and Guys walked across it! as I was growing up the big scare was the coming Ice Age!....The Pentagon even advising the US President that by 2020 England would have the climate of Siberia!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

UK has had a colder than average start to the summer.

They used to grow wine here 700 years ago but they can’t anymore. It’s been far hotter here historically.

However, the weather reports have gone up several shades of red.

I find it hard to accept that it’s a conspiracy, it’s too large.

on the other hand, there are countless examples of organisations over-egging the pudding.

My main support for green technology is surprisingly quite a right-wing one!

The world has many countries with large amounts of oil who give absolutely nothing to the development of the human race other than ignorance and corruption, yet they have fabulous wealth whereas us here have to produce things of value to pay for our oil.

The gulf states and most of the Middle East by rights should be a backwater of humanity as they have ordered their societies based on backwards religious ideas. In the normal run of things, this eventually would spur these nations to develop and change. As they’ve had artificial success based from luck essentially (without the developed world inventing combustion they would still be living in tents) they have not had to come to the modern world.

Venuzuela, Russia etc. very corrupt.

Even the United States having the dollar underpinning the worlds energy has allowed them to export inflation.

Renewable energy produced locally will benefit everyone and allow far more independence, and crucially reduce the need for resource wars, far from home.

You watch how fast these tinpot Middle East dictatorships crumble when the money hose is turned off.

That doesn't gibe with what this article talks about...

Drier climate with far less rainfall in many places along with warmer than normal temperatures and the first time ever over 40C there along with more frequent and longer heat waves...

Wasn't London just dealing with days and days over 100 degrees and more in the 90s multiple times in the last few summers? Including setting all time record high temperatures?

London has had temps reach 30C or higher 116 times in the last 30 years and 59 of those happened in the last 10. Clearly this is showing a much higher frequency has its risen from 2.85 days on average per year in the first 20 years of that period to an average of 5.9 per year over the last 10, more than double.

Really extreme temps are even worse with 7 times in the last 30 years recording 35C or higher and 5 of those have been in the last 5 years. Went from once every 12.5 years to once a year. That's a massive increase in frequency.

Same with consecutive days above 30C...in the 1990s and 2000s only twice in each decade were there temps above 30C for 3 days in a row. Since 2017, every year other than 2021 has seen that happen now. Again, going from an average of once every 5 years to basically once a year again.

Yes, the average temperature in the UK has been increasing since the 1960s. In 2023, the average annual temperature was 9.97°C, which is just 0.06°C below the record high of 10.03°C in 2022. The decade from 2012 to 2021 was on average 1°C warmer than the 1961 to 1990 average, and all 10 of the UK's warmest years have occurred since 2003.


Also, according to historical records, it is warmer now than it was back then and English vineyards are at their height NOW, even surpassing what was grown back then...so that's a myth of you believe it was warmer back then...all evidence points to it being warmer now and likely far warmer on a yearly basis. Look at the temperature graph taking off over the last 20 years like a Bitcoin parabolic breakout out of a downtrend...it basically put in a giant green one hour candle on the chart.

Climate myths: It was warmer during the Medieval period, with vineyards in England

Temperature over the past 1000 years See all climate myths in our special feature. English wine production is once again thriving and the extent of the country's vineyards probably surpasses that in the so-called Medieval Warm Period . So if you think vineyards are an accurate indicator of...

www.newscientist.com

Britain’s notoriously wet and cold climate is changing – you won’t like what replaces it - Connecting Research

The UK had the driest start to a year since the 1970s in 2022, with large parts of southern England receiving less than 50% of their normal winter rainfall.

research.reading.ac.uk

Experts say London needs to adapt for a ‘new reality’

Consecutive days above 30C are becoming more common

www.independent.co.uk

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

When you realize much of our society wasn't designed to undergo this type of heat for so long it becomes scary, even just simple glues or adhesives may become impacted, stuff we don't really think about, oil, fats, like it's mind boggling

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Cold & raining here in the SF Bay Area. I wouldn’t mind some warmth.

 

[Scaramouche]

I urge you all to google in "was it hotter in the middle ages"and make your own minds up.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I urge you all to google in "was it hotter in the middle ages"and make your own minds up.

It wasn't. Cliffnotes.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Stop complaining. I love the heat. Summer going to be busting. Hotter temps means more pool parties and less clothing on women everywhere. My kind of season.

Not sure if a blessing or a threat for you guys in the US given the average weight of the average woman there.

 

[EyeBRollin]

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz

Dumb memes are all he has. The truth lives on whether people accept it or not. Anthropogenic climate change is not debatable.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Not sure if a blessing or a threat for you guys in the US given the average weight of the average woman there.

Both unfortunately. I went to an outdoor event today here in the midwest. A mix of fat and skinny. And it was hot so you know the type of clothing that was out.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Fruitbat,
Why all this had to be politicised only the good Lord knows...Never before has any Culture self destructed on this level....One decent Volcano like say Krakatoa and they will all have egg on their faces.

 

[Scaramouche]

@All_Kindz_Of_Gainz

Dumb memes are all he has. The truth lives on whether people accept it or not. Anthropogenic climate change is not debatable.

Hi There Eyes be Rollin,
Once we close our minds on any issue we are doomed!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Hi There Eyes be Rollin,
Once we close our minds on any issue we are doomed!

The bigger issue is most people have no idea what climate change actually means, they simply look at if it's hotter out this week than normal and if it isn't they decide that it's fake.

That's not how it works, nor does it mean that EVERY place will get warmer. In fact some places will actually get cooler due to disruption of the circulating ocean current patterns that are well established but are starting to break down as well as the circulating jet streams that typically are stable but also starting to break down far more frequently.

What that leads to is wild shifts in the pendulum with crazy occurrences happening far more frequently and all at the same time in different places.

Just in the US over the last few years it hasn't been unusual to see one area of the country having record drought and heat, another having record rains and flooding, another having devastating tornado outbreaks and another with hurricanes or tropical storms that are far more severe than usual and more frequent.

Record highs have been outpacing record lows every year at a higher and higher rate.
And especially record low minimum temperatures where it does not cool down at night. Many of the all time warmest months that are being set are in large part to the very warm low temperatures being far far above normal, more than the record high temps. Basically the warmth is being kept in at night and not allowed to dissipate. Some of it is the urban heat island effect but that is a long way from explaining all of it. Record low
warm temps are now outpacing record low cold temps 6 to 1. So for every 1 record low cold temp, we have 6 record warm low temps. That should not be happening.

Look at the expansion of the hot daily lows on the chart at an almost parabolic rate.
If it was a stock, that would equate to a strong buy signal.

If this continues it's going to cause some serious issues...the higher low temperatures make it easier for for the higher high temperatures to keep increasing as they don't have as far to go and it turns into a vicious feedback loop.



Effectively, every year is turning into an almost never ending series of natural disasters one after another after another at an every increasing pace and becoming more and more severe.

THAT'S what climate change means...imagine a an old grandfather clock pendulum that has swung perfectly in balance going back and forth the same distance from the center for hundreds of years and now all of a sudden it starts going 10% further on each side then swinging back a little faster and then 20% and swinging back even faster, then 30% and then 40% and then pretty soon it starts getting out of control and it's violently going back and forth with no way of stopping it...that's pretty close to where we are right now.

For the people who don't want to believe it, all I can say is that your ignorance on the matter will not change the outcome.

 

[BaronOfHair]

This is craziness...it's not even the end of May yet and Miami has already spent more hours above a heat index of 108 since the beginning of May than it has in any other YEAR total...

x.com

x.com

Parts of Texas are expecting temps between 113-120 later this week...

A bad sign for what is to come when it's already this warm...

Also places in Southeast Asia have been sweltering recently as well with Myanmar setting a new all time high temperature of 119 in late April or early May and several other countries are having disruptive heat already as well, similar to last year...

Pretty soon many of these places will be uninhabitable if this continues warming at the rate it has seemingly every year being warmer than the last.

The successors to Sawney Bean who've peopled large sections of Texas for the past two centuries made this neck of the woods uninhabitable looooooooong ago. The weather warming up a bit couldn't be more moot of a point