"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Going on my first date, tips and suggestions?
- Thread starter Dam44
- Start date
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
TonyTenner
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- May 4, 2020
- Messages
- 252
- Reaction score
- 186
- Age
- 43
Clamslammer
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- May 6, 2018
- Messages
- 223
- Reaction score
- 285
- Age
- 43
Keep it simple and fun...always focus on having fun as this will reduce the pressure on you. Don't do anything formal on the first date like a sit down dinner. Take her to the acquarium or something like that so you guys have something to talk about
But seriously this is your first date ever at 19yo? Good luck and just remain calm. Don't worry about awkward silences. Just be yourself and don't worry what she thinks of you. At your age, there will be plenty of chances if this one doesn't pan out.
RangerMIke
Master Don Juan
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Yes, like a 'real' date. ThanksShocker... two in the pink... one in the stink.
But seriously this is your first date ever at 19yo? Good luck and just remain calm. Don't worry about awkward silences. Just be yourself and don't worry what she thinks of you. At your age, there will be plenty of chances if this one doesn't pan out.
Clamslammer
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- May 6, 2018
- Messages
- 223
- Reaction score
- 285
- Age
- 43
Done! It was good. We spent almost 2 hours.
There was good vibe, the conversation was good. A few minutes of silence but it everything went good.
We seemed comfortable and compatible. I think she could turn my girlfriend eventually.
Thanks
Black Widow Void
Master Don Juan
- Joined
- Feb 24, 2010
- Messages
- 2,153
- Reaction score
- 3,796
One word of advice: take things slow.
This being your first and all, there might be a tendency to daydream and overthink future expected outcomes. Actually, this is normal. The drawback is that things will usually not measure up to our expectations (sometimes it will exceed, but in the end, it usually leads to disappointment).
As to the advice of taking things slow... if you get caught up in a moment, you risk the problem of prematurely advancing things. It's a lot easier to gradually and eventually take a small step forward... than it is to impulsively take two steps forward ... and then attempt to take one step back.
Clamslammer
Senior Don Juan
- Joined
- May 6, 2018
- Messages
- 223
- Reaction score
- 285
- Age
- 43
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
