Going on a bike ride (day date) with a chick

[Maxtro]

What do you mean by that? How have I been staying in my comfort zone?

 

[Huffman]

I'll briefly invite her inside to grab my pump and I'll offer her some water.

So, did she "grab your pump" after all?

 

[Last_straw]

So, did she "grab your pump" after all?

ohhhh, I see what you did there? lmao

 

[Maxtro]

LOL, no. I didn't even realize I said it like that

This girl is history and I'll probably never see or talk to her again unless I run into her on campus.

 

[amoka]

LOL, no. I didn't even realize I said it like that

This girl is history and I'll probably never see or talk to her again unless I run into her on campus.

Now, what did you learn from this experience? If you did learn anything, you're bound to be getting/making the same mistake.

 

[Maxtro]

Good question.

My first mistake was not knowing her schedule before hand. With only three hours together, I felt like I had to rush and it basically guaranteed that getting physical would be impossible.

My next mistake was trying to have, "the talk" with her on the first date. I didn't say that I want to be her boyfriend or anything like that, but telling her that I "wanted to get to know" her was just as stupid. When I was out with her I felt like I had to do something, anything; and since I was too scared to try and kiss her, I opened my mouth. When we got back to my place we briefly talked about us and I got friendzoned.

For the next girl I'll use my actions to show her that I like her. I'm pretty sure that if I kept my mouth shut and tried to kiss her after we've had a few drinks, things might have gone a bit differently. That goes back to my first point of not making sure that she didn't have other plans.

The bike ride was fun, but there were better things we could have done. During the ride, kino was impossible. But it did let me take her to a great location and it provided a valid reason to get her into my apartment. She's actually the first girl I've had over here.

I don't think there's much else. When I could, the kino was fine, lots of flirty banter and teasing. I could have been a bit more aggressive, but I just wasn't sure of myself for obvious reasons.

 

[Falcon25]

You need to let this thread die, you are looking more and more like an attention *****. I told you what to do. Now burry this thread and move on.

 

[Maxtro]

I am doing nothing more than responding to the posts people make. It's my thread.

 

[Asasione]

It's really sad reading your threads Max you want success with women but your not willing to try anything beyond what you've always done. If you want women it's simple you'll have to increase your rate of trying to a point where it's almost a certainty you'll get a girl.

Explore as many options as possible. You insist on gaming women at school only which is currently your comfort zone. Branch out and cold approach, create a social circle and explore as many options as possible. Limiting yourself to one avenue is a fools errand. I can't fathom how you game one girl every 6 months, I can go through at least 2 women a week if I'm not trying.

How you manage those stats is beyond me, considering you're actually trying. I think you like failing if you keep on doing the same thing in your threads and expecting different results or do you just want to prove life handed you the **** end of the stick? You gotta try more and that means use everything you can to take you closer to your goal.

In your threads you make all these rationalizations about how if only you did x girl would do y and you would have had her as if your playing nintendo. Get real attraction doesn't work that way, even if you make all the right moves you might not get the girl. I know you won't listen but consider it, you have shunned cold approaching and the bootcamp and its clear you need it.

After six years at sosuave you still ain't gotten a girl you need to do what an intelligent businessman would do and spread your risks in different avenues to make sure you achieve some success as opposed to making a gamble on a single opportunity which has performed poorly so far.

 

[Maxtro]

And out of nowhere I get a random text

Her: You want to get lunch Monday?

WTF? I had already deleted her number but I recognized her area code.

Then it went like this.

Me: U buying?
Her: No, u cookin?
Her: Ill pay for My stuff. Lol
Me: Cookings an interesting idea, u like buffalo wings?

She hasn't replied yet.

Frankly I'm amazed that she contacted me.

Edit: Still going on. Seems like she wants Vietnamese food.

Edit: So were getting lunch on Monday. Why? I have no idea.

@ DJ_Hero, that's what I thought at the time. I'm pretty confused.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

And out of nowhere I get a random text

Her: You want to get lunch Monday?

WTF? I had already deleted her number but I recognized her area code.

Then it went like this.

Me: U buying?
Her: No, u cookin?
Her: Ill pay for My stuff. Lol
Me: Cookings an interesting idea, u like buffalo wings?

She hasn't replied yet.

Frankly I'm amazed that she contacted me.

Edit: Still going on. Seems like she wants Vietnamese food.

Predictably enough, she has you jumping through her hoops. She picks, you get to do the cooking or go to a sexless lunch where she'll pay for her stuff (translation: "I don't want to owe you anything or make you think I am interested, so I'll pay for my stuff". She says "jump!", you say, "How high"? At this point she knows you are salivating worse than Pavlov's dogs! Behaving like a predictable good doggy! :kick:

If you are willing to go and realize that this is the most asexual, lunch together possible, and she doesn't see you as a sexual threat whatsoever, then by all means, have a good time and be her platonic friend. If you are not ok with that, and want the drama and attention you'll get by coming in here and posting about this same broad, by all means, go ahead and go. If you want to stop wasting your time and just re-set, ignore her, and ignore her and start fresh with somebody else...well, we know you don't have it in you.

If you have it in you, you need to do the following:

You: We are going to get _____ food @ ______'s.
Her: But I don't feel like eating_____.
You: Ok, what do you have in mind?
Her: I want vietnamese.
You: Great, bring us some food and we'll have lunch at my place.
Her: I rather meet @_____.
You: Why don't you cook for us and bring it over.

Time to man up, brotherman!

 

[Maxtro]

I don't care about the attention and I rather not have drama here.

First off, I wouldn't pay for her stuff period. I know better than to think that paying for girls shit entitles you to pussy.

An asexual lunch? So be it. That doesn't mean that I'm not going to try anything.

What I can't figure out is why she is inviting a guy whom she knows is interested in her to lunch with her.

Is there anything I can do to turn this in my favor?

Edit: Just checked out the restaurant on the map and it's two blocks from the beach and the pier. Odds are I'll have no trouble getting her to walk out there.

Hmm, this seems like a really out of the way thing to do if she just wants my attention. Why would she even want attention from me. I don't get it. Obviously though I really don't have a clue how girls work.

OK, I may be completely over-analyzing here. I know she has night school on Monday & Wednesday. The school she goes to is in the same city I live in which is also where the restaurant is. She lives 20 minutes away.

Could it be that she's planning on spending the day with me till she goes to class? If that's the case I can easily get her to my place.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

I don't care about the attention and I rather not have drama here.

Why do you refuse to hear what you need to hear and resort to hearing only what you want to hear?

First off, I wouldn't pay for her stuff period. I know better than to think that paying for girls shit entitles you to pussy.

You know better, and she is spelling it out, making it LOUD AND CLEAR that she has no interest.

An asexual lunch? So be it. That doesn't mean that I'm not going to try anything.

Really, like what? Reaching across the table at the restaurant, and gropping her and get freaky?

What I can't figure out is why she is inviting a guy whom she knows is interested in her to lunch with her.

Because she knows you're interested. Duh. I don't know, I heard that women love to get attention. Not sure if that's true, but that might be a reason.

Is there anything I can do to turn this in my favor?

Yes, but not by listening to her and going along with everything she suggests. You first need to stop doing everything that is NOT working, everything that is getting in the way, before you can begin doing stuff that might actually swing things in your favor.

The only thing to do is to get her to your place. At least invite her to have lunch at your place. If she says no, then you have your answer, she is not interested. By going for lunch anywhere else, besides her place or yours, you are making yourself even less sexy in her eyes, if that's even possible at this point.

 

[Falcon25]

If this is real, that was her test to see if you are still whipped. She gave you one last chance to see if you had any balls. You failed (hence, no reply from her).

Two options when she sent that;
1) don't respond back and tell her to fuvk herself
2)"I'm busy during the day, if you want to grab a drink, meet me at ______ at 8pm"

I'm beginning to think this guy is hopeless and I think she knows it too.

 

[amoka]

And out of nowhere I get a random text

Her: You want to get lunch Monday?

WTF? I had already deleted her number but I recognized her area code.

Then it went like this.

Me: U buying?
Her: No, u cookin?
Her: Ill pay for My stuff. Lol
Me: Cookings an interesting idea, u like buffalo wings?

She hasn't replied yet.

Compare this to this...

I deleted her number and email address.....

 

[3countriesPlan]

Dude realize you CAN make rules for girls. If she is interested she will follow the rules. This one is just making you her little AFC puppy. Stop dating pondscum! Next her and go find a girl who IS ready to follow you.

 

[Maxtro]

Honestly this whole interaction with her is now more like a science project. My interest for her has dramatically lowered. Now I'm just trying to figure out what the hell she's thinking. I'm also going to be testing the boundaries till she tells me no. Then I walk away.

If she wants a friend who's going to keep trying to hook up with her then that's on her. I have nothing to lose.

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Honestly this whole interaction with her is now more like a science project. My interest for her has dramatically lowered. Now I'm just trying to figure out what the hell she's thinking. I'm also going to be testing the boundaries till she tells me no. Then I walk away.

Rule #1: Anytime anybody begins a statement with "Honestly", you can automatically disregard what they say after as being anything but honest.

Your interest has not lowered a bit. In fact, you're beating a dead horse. When people invest in something, they pursue it more fiercely, because of what they have invested at that point. Until she tells you no? She already told you no. Why wait until she tells you no more times? Just walk away now. Unless you want to drag this out.

If she wants a friend who's going to keep trying to hook up with her then that's on her. I have nothing to lose.

The old carrot and stick trick.

The old Pavlov's dogs conditioning.

The little dog she can tool for her amusement. :cheer:

You have plenty to loose. She has nothing to loose. You're just another orbiter, one of many who can feed her ego and give her attention. Those things are as important to women as much as getting laid can be for us.

You are loosing time you can be utilizing to improve yourself, to pursue/attract other women, and you are letting you strip you of any dignity you might have left at this point. Then again, you might not actually value/respect your own time, and think you are getting closer. Each additional minute you waste on her, is only helping you dig up your own grave with this one.

At this point, it is obvious you have nobody else you're working on, as you are spending way too much time posting and thinking about somebody who you'll never see naked.

If you actually have that much time to waste in being her entertainment monkey, then I don't know why I even waste one of my 10 alloted posts/day on someone who just doesn't want to listent to anything.

I only hope others here, in your shoes, and with little experince, can learn from others' mistakes and get something out of this.

 

[Tesl]

If she wants a friend who's going to keep trying to hook up with her then that's on her. I have nothing to lose.

Yes you do, you have your time when you should be doing other things - be it working on yourself, or out with other friends/girls. What's the point in spending time with this girl if nothing is ever going to happen? which is what YOU want.

This is a symptom of the problems I wrote about earlier in the thread, that you don't have enough options and that makes you over analyse non interested girls and waste lots of time.

She's already made the point that shes not interested, so there's not much point to this. If you are comfortable just being friends and hanging out (maybe trying to meet new girls through her?) then that's fine, but I don't think that is what you are doing here.

Stop wasting your precious time, and go meet other people.

 

[ThePrize]

i think maxtro is not comfortable of getting out of his comfort zone.

ahem.. is that supposed to be a joke or were you serious?