"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Gladiators!::Approach Anxiety Competition!
- Thread starter AAAgent
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
The start date is still February 28th 2011.
Current Participants: 16 (task's will be posted 2-3 days before the start of the first week)
AAAgent
sesshoDevrim
Gray The Prince
Stryker
Guinea Pig
Deicide --(kind of iffy about you. you've been consistently approaching it seems but by your earlier statement i guess if its for betterment than i'll allow it)
Feedline
Pierce
Angelo
Flint
powpow
umirinbrah
Ease
Shivastorm_88
xs_
Just whatever you think, I'm fine with it either way. I've had one date this week with one girl, and I have another one with a different girl Friday, so everything is transitioning well it seems. My approach anxieties are worse about approaching 2/3/4 sets and moving targets. Just seeing a girl by herself on a corner isn't so bad.AAAgent said:
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
Make at least 1 approach(female) or possibly 2 and attempt to number close. This can be done in any setting, night, day, etc.
If you are successful with the first attempt at getting the number you have completed the task and are finished. Anything else is extra.
If you are denied the number you must cold approach and attempt to number close a second person. As long as you complete 2 approaches (either 1 fail and 1 success or 2 fails) or 1 initial successful approach you will have succeeded in this week's task. Failure to do any approaches will result in 1 elimination.
Gladiators are allowed two eliminations before they are fully expelled from the games, essentially being double elimination.
You are only required to make a maximum of 2 attempts or a minimum of 1 successful attempt so each participant MUST document in this forum exactly:
1.) Where they approached.
2.) What they said.
3.) The response they were given.
4.) Anything else noteworthy.
This is so other participants including YOU, can learn from their mistake, other's mistakes, and successes.
Participants are still welcomed until the end of the first week. If you join midway through the task you still have to complete the task by the same time as everyone else.
Masculinity
Master Don Juan
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Add my screen name to this list. AA you better be ready for me!AAAgent said:
Gray The Prince
Master Don Juan
You can start anytime.
AAAgent
sesshoDevrim
Gray The Prince
Stryker
Guinea Pig
Deicide
Feedline
Pierce
Angelo
Flint
powpow
umirinbrah
Ease
Shivastorm_88
xs_
Robyn923b
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
powpow
Senior Don Juan
powpow
Senior Don Juan
approach 1 - 6 - mid to late twenties - megafail
approach a girl as she is waiting for the light to change. I tell her I like her shoes. she completely ignores me. I look at her kind of confused. she pulls down her hood, and pulls out her earphones and looks kind of annoyed. I said, "oh! yeah sorry I didnt notice you were listening to music. I wanted to tell you I like your shoes. look warm, Im really jealous. girls only right? (they were those big fur boots that seem to be really popular here). She pretty much blew me off. said, oh yeah, thanks, and put the earphones back in. awkward.
approach 2 - 7 - late teens, early 20s - utter success
I notice this girl, dressed really cute, no umbrella. its starting to rain kind of hard at this point.
me - sweetheart wheres your umbrella? it seems to be raining. big smile
her - haha, I left it at home. I didnt think it was going to rain today
me - hahaha, japan weather likes to change its mind huh
her - laugh, big smile, eye contact, no words
pause
me - hey where are you going?
her - to the station, you?
me - going to the super. its on the way for you. kinda weird but if you want you can walk with me at least to there. then, in a very american accent, in english, I say, I am nice guy. (with a big smile) then switch back to japanese and say akujin ja nai. akujin is a very funny word meaning evil person. people laugh every time.
her - EH??!!!!! japanese girls do this when they are really surprised, kind of like, I cant believe youre doing this right now
me - yeah? big smile
her - no words, just trots over under my umbrella
BAM KINO ESCALATION. I hold the umbrella only over me, make her come closer hahahaha what a **** move I know
me - going to the station huh? what do you have planned on this day with such good weather?
her - Im just meeting a friend. nothing special
me - oh... one of your many boyfriends huh?
her - actually hes my friends friend. he likes me, but I dont really like him much (oh hell yeah, is this a hint? yes. yes it is)
me - oh is he cute? good hair? pretty face? cool shoes maybe?
her - laugh
me - hey **** that, lets go karaoke (karaoke is super popular here)
her - that EHHH??!!! thing again
me - Im serious (I use a local dialect here because I think its funny)
her - no no no I have to meet him. my friend would kill me
me - no no no its raining. call him, say you caught a cold. can you sing english songs? avril lavigne?
her - stops walking, looks at me, I think to see if Im full of **** or not.
me - walk a few steps away (isolating her from the umbrellas safety hahahaha). smile, and motion her to come on
she smiles, comes to me, tells me to hold on, walks into a bookstore, calls her stupid pal, comes out. we go karaoke.
I had a really good time. Told her I wanna see her again. Got her number, and hug close. For fun I grab her wrist while she hugs me, and pull her in a little, then break and part ways.
good time. glad I joined this competition
Masculinity
Master Don Juan
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"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
If a chick isnt even paying you any mind then why step to her. If a chick is already choosing you then its easy to step to her.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.