"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Give your experience of how a girl showed you that she was (is) attracted to you

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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-She touches you frequently
-She contacts you frequently
-She goes out of her way to see you
-She does favors for you
-Frequent eye contact in conversations. If she's locking eyes with you for prolonged periods of time.
-She laughs a lot in conversation with you, even if your jokes are stupid.
-She calls you handsome (not like your mom lol)
-She compliments you on what you're wearing
-If you've been dating her, she asks if you've been dating other people
-She wants to meet your friends (to make sure they aren't getting you into trouble lol)
-she texts you really late at night, or sends you a "good morning"/"good night" text.

The list goes on.. The way i see it, is you shouldn't need the girl to show she's attracted to you.. You show her that you're attracted to her by making a move. Not by being an AFC and having emotional diarrhea on her.
 

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Ahaha!! rarely any replies to this thread! that's because most of the chumps on here have ZERO experience! As in the amount of time they actually spend talking to girls!

I might be able to help you out.

I've been doing it for a few years now and have pretty much mastered my approach to a point where most (if not all) of the numbers I get are real, done within 5 minutes of meeting them (without wasting time building rapport with a girl who has no sexual interest in you or trying to build attraction with a girl who would never in a million years go out with to you like she could be really in love with someone else and he might be seducing the crap out of her so she doesn't need you), and come with a girl who at least has some interest in me. However, I'm not all that great (yet) at converting them from pick ups to dates, mainly because of my behavior after I get their numbers but that's another story. For now can tell you how I know they may be interested in you romantically.

I've noticed that girls who might be thinking romance will care if you look at another woman in front of her. Don't drool over other women in front of her and try to keep your eyes away from other women when in front of her but if you happen to slip up and she notices it, that could be sign she has some romantic interest in you. That is, she views you as a potential partner.

I noticed that when I ask a girl to meetup with me for drinks or to go to the movies, and she's unavailable, she would suggest another day. That could mean she wants to see you too.

When your with her, if you catch her glancing at your lips while you talk or another portion of your body, like your back or hands, when you're "looking away" it could mean she's sexually attracted to you. Remember tho, just cause a woman's sexually attracted to you, doesn't mean she'll act on it.

Have you tried role-playing via text or in person? Like pretending your her husband and she's your wife. Does she play along or at least allow it without any objection? Could mean she likes your humor, which is better than she not liking it at all. So maybe that's a sign too but not sure about this one as she could just be taking it as you being funny. And that doesn't necessarily mean she's into you.

Also, if she doesn't bring up a boyfriend. It's a good sign. Especially if she has one :) You'll notice, however, that if you come on too strong, show neediness or some other off putting quality, she'll bring up that boyfriend to get you TO BACK OFF. Doesn't necessity mean she wants you to back off permanently. Could just mean to chill for now. So try again, this time without the bull**** that puts women off. Be cool and don't sweat the girl. You'll notice that if you do, the boyfriend all of sudden disappears from conversations! lol

I have yet to get really good at converting my pick ups from numbers to dates as I've made many mistakes in trying to do so along the way which as resulted in them not wanting to talk to me anymore so can't really help you any further. After that, I will probably still need to good at another level, converting my dates to sex. So even tho I've been doing this for several years now, I have a long ways to go but remember the fun is in the doing!


One final note: (and this is very important): most non-experience idiots who think they know seduction will tell you that once you're in the "friend zone" it's over. First off, a woman may use the friend context so she can get to know you first all along being attracted to you. In other words, just because she says lets be friends doesn't mean she isn't attracted to you, yes, sexually. So be her "friend" and show her that you're an attractive man. Then when the time comes, make that move and you'll see all of sudden you guys are "friends with benefits" lol
 
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Alex DeLarge said:
-She touches you frequently
-She contacts you frequently
-She goes out of her way to see you
-She does favors for you
-Frequent eye contact in conversations. If she's locking eyes with you for prolonged periods of time.
-She laughs a lot in conversation with you, even if your jokes are stupid.
-She calls you handsome (not like your mom lol)
-She compliments you on what you're wearing
-If you've been dating her, she asks if you've been dating other people
-She wants to meet your friends (to make sure they aren't getting you into trouble lol)
-she texts you really late at night, or sends you a "good morning"/"good night" text.
Sounds like you got that from the internet.

Alex DeLarge said:
Not by being an AFC and having emotional diarrhea on her.

How sad, AFC's bashing other AFCs in a poor attempt to look Alpha. You're a joke dude! lol
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
-She touches you frequently
-She contacts you frequently
-She goes out of her way to see you
-She does favors for you
-Frequent eye contact in conversations. If she's locking eyes with you for prolonged periods of time.
-She laughs a lot in conversation with you, even if your jokes are stupid.
-She calls you handsome (not like your mom lol)
-She compliments you on what you're wearing
-If you've been dating her, she asks if you've been dating other people
-She wants to meet your friends (to make sure they aren't getting you into trouble lol)
-she texts you really late at night, or sends you a "good morning"/"good night" text.
Thats a good list, chock full of truth Alex.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Complimenting your looks, style, and personality
Noticing details about your presentation; when it changes (ie, haircut)
Flirting and touching
Showing sexual interest
Staring
Coming into your space constantly
Smiling, laughing, having a good time around you
Talking about the future with you; sharing dreams about you
Contacting you often; showing genuine interest; remembering details
Acting overly excited, happy, and girly
Talking about sexual things they want to do with you
Turning conversations sexual
Acting shy, nervous, high strung, figgity, playing with hair

It's pretty obvious when someone is interested. I could provide specific examples, but there's different ways for each girl. Literally, thousands of ways they show these things. The easiest sign is compliments... Saying you're sexy, hot, handsome, etc, followed by sexual talk.
 

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Forgot to add / too lazy to edit:

Going out of her way to be close to, and touch you
Complimenting or checking out your body
Trying to set up 1on1 plans outside of work/friends
Wanting to see you RIGHT NOW; no excuses or delays
Thinking about you; missing you; saying you're on their mind
Contacting you constantly
Going out of their way to see you
Asking personal questions
Showing concern when you act up or avoid them (means they care)
Becoming jealous when you talk to, or about other girls
Saying you turn her on

Probably more I'm forgetting...
 

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You don't need to be told. You already know!

Put yourself in their shoes, would you call/text a girl out of the blue unless you were trying to get your **** wet?

Would you attempt to keep a decent conversation going over anything apart from face to face with an ugly girl you had no interest in banging?

I wouldn't.

And so far as her being excited round you, giggling like a school girl and twirling her labia, use your ****ing gut - it's usually right. If it's not, so what? :trouble:

You are the one that should be going for it: a few of the hottest girls I've nailed showed pretty much zero interest aside from simply replying to any contact.

This is mental masturbation.
 

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Love: people usually end up in the friend zone when they don't escalate sexually. They put THEMSELVES there. You can get out, unless she's not attracted to you. Then its a waste of time.

The difference is between starting off in the FZ (ie, no chance), and ending up there (still possible). Acting like boyfriend material will get you out of there quickly. Acting too friendly keeps you there.

If there's interest outside of being friends - they will let it be known. They'll still show all these romantic signs and what not. They might be afraid of rejection also.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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I've seen the attraction before, but didn't act soon enough. Here are the ones that stood out for me in hindsight.

One time, this lady (rather good looking too) was going out of her way to annoy me. She sat behind me bumping into my seat. Later that evening, she was horsing around with my friend and looking directly at me with those "I want you" eyes. Everyone in the group went to a bar and I believe she tagged along. I didn't have a car and wasn't sure how late the others were going to hang out, so I split by grabbing a ride back. I should've just stayed to see how things would've played out there. Oh well.

Another time was when I got to know this cute blonde I worked with for one night at a concert event. At one point, I was teaching her how to use the ticket scanner and we were touching hands. I could tell there was something more between us right then and there as we slowed down a bit when our hands met. Also, as the crowd goers were mostly in the stadium, the remaining ones weren't going through my turnstile as much. So, I jokingly said, "ehh, nobody likes me". She responded with, "That's not true". It was her way of saying she liked me. Unfortunately, she wasn't there often, but she sure remembered me from just that one day we worked together. Everytime we saw each other in the hallway or elsewhere, it was like looking at her in slow motion. That's the only way I can describe it. I'm damn sure she wanted me to make a move and I'll regret that one til the day I die. That would have been a great sexual experience too because there was so much going on between us on so many levels.

And yet another time.. a friend of mine had wandered into this establishment and asked the lady there for directions within the building. I was checking this chick out by the way. I did the visual up and down scan and she must have noticed. When we walked past her, she grabbed my tie, pulled me in closer and said, "I like your tie". All I said was, "thanks" and walked past (dumbass me). I'm pretty sure that this incident would have resulted in an overnight lay, but of course I didn't pursue it.

Here's one more, although I don't know if this was directed at me or not. I was walking out of a restaurant and this one cute chick said rather loudly right next to her friend, "I'm craving c*ck". That was just as I walked past her. Her friend was shocked. I was like, WTF? Do women really blurt stuff like this out? Then again, it may have not been me she was addressing it to. If it was though and I had the guts to say it, I would've just leaned in to her and said, "I think that can be arranged". ;) haha.

I've already talked on this board before about my battle with autism. Just be thankful you don't have it. That's all I got to say there. You miss out on so much more because of it.

- Xanthus
 

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loveorlust said:
Oh no, another clueless idiot.
Drop the ego, dude.
 

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"Do you want sex ? I'll give it to you if you want"...
 

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floydb25 said:
Noticing details about your presentation; when it changes (ie, haircut)
YES!! Very true.

Girls with different types of personalities will express it in different ways. I think the best thing to look at is the eyes. Eye contact will usually give it away. With deep eye contact, some girls will stare back into your eyes and give an obvious expression of glee or desire. Others will respond with fleeting eye contact if they are shy or maybe you make them nervous. The smile with extended eye contact is a dead giveaway.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Agreeing to meet unde your conditions.. Ie time, place etc. traveling to see you. Initiating kino. Licking your arshole.
 

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I've had all of these mentioned above.. but then after a 3rd date she'll text me to say she was never attracted to me!! WTF?

Is this cos her present feelings are what matter and whatever happened before doesnt?

i tried to reason with her that she was.. but that's stupid having that kind of convo i realize but it just baffles me that a girl will show all kinds of IL and suddenly when she no longer feels it, states she never did. it's like a stab to the heart.
 

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drift king said:
I've had all of these mentioned above.. but then after a 3rd date she'll text me to say she was never attracted to me!! WTF?

Is this cos her present feelings are what matter and whatever happened before doesnt?

i tried to reason with her that she was.. but that's stupid having that kind of convo i realize but it just baffles me that a girl will show all kinds of IL and suddenly when she no longer feels it, states she never did. it's like a stab to the heart.
You never reason with a girl about her feelings, you think you can make her see sense that she really likes you? If she said that to you then just accept and move on, she's not joking and it's not a test.
 

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The main thing at all is to look for the signs, and do things to gauge interest level. Kino, kino, kino! You can almost always tell if a chick is initially interested in you by how she responds to subtle kinos. If she touches back or shows no distaste then you are good.

Eye contact is a given. Also, if she laughs at your jokes or humor, and makes effort in conversation.

Aside from all that, and the obvious, I believe for the most part you can kind of just naturally know. There will be a bit of chemistry between you and her. I know with myself my gut is seldom wrong on these things.
 

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drift king said:
I've had all of these mentioned above.. but then after a 3rd date she'll text me to say she was never attracted to me!! WTF?

Is this cos her present feelings are what matter and whatever happened before doesnt?

i tried to reason with her that she was.. but that's stupid having that kind of convo i realize but it just baffles me that a girl will show all kinds of IL and suddenly when she no longer feels it, states she never did. it's like a stab to the heart.
Yes. She lost interest. This is similar to saying they never loved or cared about you. They go by how they feel RIGHT NOW. It doesn't mean they never liked you.

This is why I recommend not getting ahead of yourself during the infatuation stage. If she's crazy about you, and you become crazy about her, and she loses interest - you are screwed. Attachment too early is a bad idea, because feelings can change in an instant. This is especially true during infatuation. They always come on strong, make you feel special, talk about the future, etc, during this stage. Don't take it too seriously, or fall too hard. As soon as she realizes you aren't perfect, or whatever - she'll drop you like nothing, and you'll be left wondering what the hell just happened. Probably trying to win her over, convince her that she likes you, etc. All bad ideas.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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