"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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"give to to giver, and take from the taker"

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just read this little tip on sosuave.com:
http://www.sosuave.com/quick/tip247.htm

in summary, it talks about being kind and generous and kind to the type of girls who are giving, and being the ****y, negging type to the girls who are used to guys fawning over them and doing nice things for them.

my question is, have any of you guys met any HB8s and up who are givers? I haven't and i don't think they exist. By their sheer nature of being beautiful, AFCs have always given to them, and made them used to "taking".

let me know what you experienced DJs think
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Givers are turned off by givers as well. Its better to be somewhat of a taker.
 
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I think you can "train" your woman! If you make her understand that by giving you she earns some things, she WILL give you... No matter what HB she is... You say there is no HB8+ who are givers? WTF, my lady for now is a HB 8 and when I want to light a ciggarete she gets off the bed to bring me the ashtray and the lighter! :p This is small but that's what we are most of the time! I once told her that by doing those things she looks more of a woman to me, cause a woman should care about making their man happy, and she liked it! She wanted to please me even more, prove me that she is a woman the way I think a woman should be! You can take and give to everyone just by knowing how to "use" them!
 
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