Im in college. Theres this weird thing. I know this one guy who is really quiet and shy. He gets a girlfriend and now hes all opinionated and slowly turning douchebaggish. Another guy is super fkn womenly. He used to follow this chick around school. He also ended up getting a girlfriend. So 2 super AFCs getting chicks. EXPLAIN SOSUAVE, whats going on?
"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
girly men getting women
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Kenny Powers
Senior Don Juan
Not all girls are the same and some do like guys like this. However, these metro guys will be stepped on for the whole relationship and will eventually just push their girls to real men like us.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
SandHawk
Master Don Juan
Yea man, just because we consider ourself real men and these guys to be AFCs doesn't matter they won't get laid or never get a girlfriend. There seems to be a common misbelieve that the DJ way is the only way to meet women.
No, AFCs meet girls too and eventually get laid. However, the DJ lifestyle doesn't focus on that one girl that's perfect for you [doesn't exist], but on dipping your manhood into as many girls as you can. And for that, you need game.
No, AFCs meet girls too and eventually get laid. However, the DJ lifestyle doesn't focus on that one girl that's perfect for you [doesn't exist], but on dipping your manhood into as many girls as you can. And for that, you need game.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Julius_Seizeher
Master Don Juan
Personally, I think the feminine men thing is yet another anti-male theme championed by our man-hating liberal media and hollywood. Turn on your tv, and the archetype of the "traditional" man is depicted as a drunk who beats up his wife.
What if they deserve it? Yet another reason for me to not get married.
But regardless, I know for damn sure that is NOT the way for me, and I should hope these effeminate men discover the travesty of their existence before they are made into cuckolds by these equally lost women.
What if they deserve it? Yet another reason for me to not get married.
But regardless, I know for damn sure that is NOT the way for me, and I should hope these effeminate men discover the travesty of their existence before they are made into cuckolds by these equally lost women.
Well there are scientific researches showing that women on the pill are more attracted to feminine men, so those men are more "in" recently. And then there are of course the dandies who have been around for centuries.
Half of the guys who come to sites like this can get a GF but are often miserable and not getting what they want out of the relationship. Not all who come here can't get laid.
Half of the guys who come to sites like this can get a GF but are often miserable and not getting what they want out of the relationship. Not all who come here can't get laid.
Young women go after what they see on TV. The cool guys with their trendy haircuts a clothing etc. Once these young girls discover REAL MEN they feel more feminine and then know what they want. Its part of growing up.
+1Julius_Seizeher said:
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Plinco
Master Don Juan
I have observed this too.
It is an imprint from Hollywood that younger people have been looking towards in the last few years. I think it is that young women think they want that type of guy, but the trend will run its course.
It is an imprint from Hollywood that younger people have been looking towards in the last few years. I think it is that young women think they want that type of guy, but the trend will run its course.
bunch of haters here. metro guys are just regular guys that keep their physique in great shape at all times. your 2 afc friends get laid while you masturbate yourself to sleep every night.
time to work on that beer belly and shave please.
time to work on that beer belly and shave please.
Someone Much cooler
Senior Don Juan
I think clean cut is good but metro is drawlin a lil. I like to were Ralph lauren polo, but the way they dress up their male models is def not how i like to carry myself. Alot of em def look homo
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Kenny Powers
Senior Don Juan
Eating well, staying in shape and working on your appearance are not metro. But wearing girl jeans, being weak, and acting like a chick are.
Sometimes though its not even about physical appearance, you can just tell when a guy is a weak-metro-beta. Its all about attitude and confidence. I do some metro-stuff but I don't like act like pvssy.
The OP mentioned how one guy gained confidence from being with a girl and the other would follow girls he liked around. Sounds pretty AFC to me.
I don't have anything against metro-guys, they make me look good. Just like how the abnoxious roided-up backwards visor wearing deuce-bags make me look good too.
Sometimes though its not even about physical appearance, you can just tell when a guy is a weak-metro-beta. Its all about attitude and confidence. I do some metro-stuff but I don't like act like pvssy.
The OP mentioned how one guy gained confidence from being with a girl and the other would follow girls he liked around. Sounds pretty AFC to me.
I don't have anything against metro-guys, they make me look good. Just like how the abnoxious roided-up backwards visor wearing deuce-bags make me look good too.
Kailex
Master Don Juan
For the sake of argument... even if those two ARE AFC's...
What makes you think that there is a rule stating: All AFC's do NOT get laid.
There is no absolutes to this theory of AFC's. You CAN'T state that all of them AREN'T getting laid.
And the subsequent problem with labeling someone an AFC is that you could never be 100% sure if they really are an AFC. Maybe they are shy and quiet around YOU, but when they are with their girls, they are assertive and take command and are dominating and that drives them CRAZY.
This is why we must be very careful when assessing what is AFC and what isn't and who is and who isn't according to OUR standards. What could be AFC to you could be Alpha Male to that nerdy chic who likes anime.
In the end, even if they are true AFC's, they are most likely an exception to the rule... simple outliers... and eventual candidates to having their hearts broken when someone better than them shows up in their girlfriends' lives.
What makes you think that there is a rule stating: All AFC's do NOT get laid.
There is no absolutes to this theory of AFC's. You CAN'T state that all of them AREN'T getting laid.
And the subsequent problem with labeling someone an AFC is that you could never be 100% sure if they really are an AFC. Maybe they are shy and quiet around YOU, but when they are with their girls, they are assertive and take command and are dominating and that drives them CRAZY.
This is why we must be very careful when assessing what is AFC and what isn't and who is and who isn't according to OUR standards. What could be AFC to you could be Alpha Male to that nerdy chic who likes anime.
In the end, even if they are true AFC's, they are most likely an exception to the rule... simple outliers... and eventual candidates to having their hearts broken when someone better than them shows up in their girlfriends' lives.
Forty0ztoFreedom
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I'm in a liberal part of the country and you see this quite a bit, actually.
You should have seen this one guy a girl I know used to date. He had these 'bangs' . . perfectly straightened hair, going down half his face. I told her many times how ridiculous it looks. I swear he wore makeup too.
And in the liberal-er parts of this liberal part of the country, most of the time the girl is dating another girl, or a twerpy hipster with clothes he must have gotten from the kid's section they're so tight. DJ's these men are not, I can tell you that. In fact they're often shy and reserved clones of each other.
You should have seen this one guy a girl I know used to date. He had these 'bangs' . . perfectly straightened hair, going down half his face. I told her many times how ridiculous it looks. I swear he wore makeup too.
And in the liberal-er parts of this liberal part of the country, most of the time the girl is dating another girl, or a twerpy hipster with clothes he must have gotten from the kid's section they're so tight. DJ's these men are not, I can tell you that. In fact they're often shy and reserved clones of each other.
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
They're effeminate HerbsS.U.R.F. said:
More specifically they're Hipster Herbs.
I'd like to see pics of their girlfriends.