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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Girls Paying For My Dates

total_afc

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I've noticed this with the last half dozen girls I've dated. They've all picked up the tabs on our dates, especially our first dates and sometimes subsequent dates if there are subsequent dates. I'm pretty shy, so half the time, it's the girl asking me out. But even when i ask the girl out, she winds up paying.

I tried paying for one girl (we were at the movies). She got extremely pissed off, offended and shoved my cash aside as if she were disgusted at my offer then continued to pay.

I DID manage to pay for a date with a girl recently. However, she kept asking me if she couldn't pay for her half of the check. "I got it," I said. "Are you sure?" she must've asked three times and seemed genuinely surprised that I would not let her pay.

These are all inexpensive first dates at the movies or a cafe so the financial burden on either side is minimal. But the thing is, I would feel more comfortable paying myself on the first date. However, I can't seem to get girls to allow me to do this. It also seems to create a very weird vibe when I do pay or try to pay. None of the girls has passively allowed me to pay.

What's your guys experience with this?
 

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Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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The Sperminator

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Those are keepers man. Has happened to me a few times. The girls probably just like you a lot. What other reason would they pay for you. Well what happen after the dates? Did you go on more dates or what?
 

J-Bone

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hell yeh bro. let her pay!
 

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You gotta listen to Too $hort's Fvck My Car rap.


The only reason she would want you to pay for her is because she's BROKE and wants to EAT. Thus, you never pay for her.. If she complains, tell her are you BROKE and just tagging along with me so you could EAT? C&F.

I always go for 50/50. If she offers to pay it all, it's all good.

Should she ever cry about you paying the bill, never do it. Accuse her of being BROKE and tagging along with you so she could EAT. She's a gold digger, run.
 

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Woooo Woooo Woooo

slow down here.

MEN pay......period. The trick is not to be taken advantage of or buy her ridiculus stuff.

This is SOsuave, not how to get a sugar momma

Shorty will use this one sometime:

If you are out to dinner. ........sometime before the mel ends "excuse yourself and go to the bathroom" go track down the waitress and either pay her cash (if you know no more food will be ordered) or give her your credit card and tell her to run an open tab. Then go back to your table

1 of two things will happen at this point

1 If you paid cash, you get up, put a tip on the table, take your girl, smile at the staff wave say goodbye to them and walk out with her. Dont even mention it. She will be confused as to why you didnt have to pay, or they are not chasing you down with your check.

2 If you paid with the card. The waitress will bring the tab to the table and just askl you to sign for it. your girl will think you have an account there

The trick is make it a non issue, she will be impressed and be happy that the uncomfortable situation was totally avoided
 

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You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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"The trick is make it a non issue, she will be impressed and be happy that the uncomfortable situation was totally avoided"

:crackup:

Please......uncomfortable situation? As soon as i sit down all my dates,they are saying...what do u want to eat/drink....omg i love this place...eat anything u want i got it...this is so fun....lets dance after this....

now tell me, if u consider that uncomfortable then once again see below
:crackup:

btw no its not a expensive or extremely nice place and if she wants to pay for a meal because I AM THE MOST FUN SHE HAS EVER HAD IN HER LIFE...then i let her.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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total_afc said:
...What's your guys experience with this?
Quit 'yer complainin' and learn how to graciously accept their kindness. Stop focusing on your ego telling you must pay and focus on the woman who could be showing you that she's interested.
 

total_afc

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Francisco, I gotta ask, even though it's completely off-topic. I hear from one or two sources that Minneapolis has some SMOKING little HB's everywhere, congregrating at the big assed mall you guys have and runnin' around the Univ. of Minnesota campus. Any truth to these rumors? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
 

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Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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