"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Girls Paying For My Dates

total_afc

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I've noticed this with the last half dozen girls I've dated. They've all picked up the tabs on our dates, especially our first dates and sometimes subsequent dates if there are subsequent dates. I'm pretty shy, so half the time, it's the girl asking me out. But even when i ask the girl out, she winds up paying.

I tried paying for one girl (we were at the movies). She got extremely pissed off, offended and shoved my cash aside as if she were disgusted at my offer then continued to pay.

I DID manage to pay for a date with a girl recently. However, she kept asking me if she couldn't pay for her half of the check. "I got it," I said. "Are you sure?" she must've asked three times and seemed genuinely surprised that I would not let her pay.

These are all inexpensive first dates at the movies or a cafe so the financial burden on either side is minimal. But the thing is, I would feel more comfortable paying myself on the first date. However, I can't seem to get girls to allow me to do this. It also seems to create a very weird vibe when I do pay or try to pay. None of the girls has passively allowed me to pay.

What's your guys experience with this?
 

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The Sperminator

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Those are keepers man. Has happened to me a few times. The girls probably just like you a lot. What other reason would they pay for you. Well what happen after the dates? Did you go on more dates or what?
 

J-Bone

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hell yeh bro. let her pay!
 

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You gotta listen to Too $hort's Fvck My Car rap.


The only reason she would want you to pay for her is because she's BROKE and wants to EAT. Thus, you never pay for her.. If she complains, tell her are you BROKE and just tagging along with me so you could EAT? C&F.

I always go for 50/50. If she offers to pay it all, it's all good.

Should she ever cry about you paying the bill, never do it. Accuse her of being BROKE and tagging along with you so she could EAT. She's a gold digger, run.
 

ShortyMac

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Woooo Woooo Woooo

slow down here.

MEN pay......period. The trick is not to be taken advantage of or buy her ridiculus stuff.

This is SOsuave, not how to get a sugar momma

Shorty will use this one sometime:

If you are out to dinner. ........sometime before the mel ends "excuse yourself and go to the bathroom" go track down the waitress and either pay her cash (if you know no more food will be ordered) or give her your credit card and tell her to run an open tab. Then go back to your table

1 of two things will happen at this point

1 If you paid cash, you get up, put a tip on the table, take your girl, smile at the staff wave say goodbye to them and walk out with her. Dont even mention it. She will be confused as to why you didnt have to pay, or they are not chasing you down with your check.

2 If you paid with the card. The waitress will bring the tab to the table and just askl you to sign for it. your girl will think you have an account there

The trick is make it a non issue, she will be impressed and be happy that the uncomfortable situation was totally avoided
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"The trick is make it a non issue, she will be impressed and be happy that the uncomfortable situation was totally avoided"

:crackup:

Please......uncomfortable situation? As soon as i sit down all my dates,they are saying...what do u want to eat/drink....omg i love this place...eat anything u want i got it...this is so fun....lets dance after this....

now tell me, if u consider that uncomfortable then once again see below
:crackup:

btw no its not a expensive or extremely nice place and if she wants to pay for a meal because I AM THE MOST FUN SHE HAS EVER HAD IN HER LIFE...then i let her.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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total_afc said:
...What's your guys experience with this?
Quit 'yer complainin' and learn how to graciously accept their kindness. Stop focusing on your ego telling you must pay and focus on the woman who could be showing you that she's interested.
 

total_afc

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Francisco, I gotta ask, even though it's completely off-topic. I hear from one or two sources that Minneapolis has some SMOKING little HB's everywhere, congregrating at the big assed mall you guys have and runnin' around the Univ. of Minnesota campus. Any truth to these rumors? Inquiring minds want to know. :)
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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