"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Girls Like Playing with "FIRE" saying: A technique I thought of
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Lexie
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As for the delivery, say it in a quieter than normal voice, and move in a little
MooseGod
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Back in the day, I along with many others would have jumped into this thread to criticize this approach as AFC, but I think many of us learned that what you say is completely irrelevant as long as you say what you say the right way.verysuave said:
So I tried it on a co worker of mine. I'm new at this grocery store as a checker. This blonde started the flirting with me. I iniated the kino. then she kinoed back. back and forth..moto said:
I wear an apron to work. SO today, she playfully untied it as she walked pass me at my check stand. As she walked away, I tried to make eye contact with her then she looks back.
Later on when I ran into her agian, i said
"Don't do that again, because if you do, I am going to ask for your phone number" (i said it like how james bond would say it)
HB: I guess i better keep my hands to myself
me: you do that.
Then, customers started coming in... then I left work. The end!
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Boschy
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You turn it around and make it seem like she was trying to get your attention indirectly. Classic frame-setting technique. It usually results in an amusing chat if you can maintain your cool
flows101
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"wow i never knew you wanted to get so up close and personal, but i like it, keep it up and i might consider taking you out for lunch sometime" (cheeky grin)
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Agree. That's not smooth at all.squirrels said:
You can't let her now your intentions that early in the game, if at all. If you do it's like seing a movie your friend already spoiled by telling you the ending. You gotta let the attraction build first.
Like this....
James Bond would say: You shouldn't play with fire dear...... you might get burned.
Then she would say: Hmmm that's just a chance i'm gonna have to take Mr. Bond.
[in a hot eastern european accent]Of course in real life you don't want to walk around using one liners. But you get the point. It has to be ambiguous and suggestive at the same time. You have to show her that you're ready to get in the ring, and challenge her not wuss out and supplicate.
I'm just going to ignore her until she does something again. But, she initiated the feisty attitude with me, asking me about my skull ring, asking all kinds of questions etc etc. But yah, ill give the silent treatment. Ill keep everyone posted.Play the Game said:Agree. That's not smooth at all.
You can't let her now your intentions that early in the game, if at all. If you do it's like seing a movie your friend already spoiled by telling you the ending. You gotta let the attraction build first.
Like this....
James Bond would say: You shouldn't play with fire dear...... you might get burned.
Then she would say: Hmmm that's just a chance i'm gonna have to take Mr. Bond.
Of course in real life you don't want to walk around using one liners. But you get the point. It has to be ambiguous and suggestive at the same time. You have to show her that you're ready to get in the ring, and challenge her not wuss out and supplicate.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
in the past i've done the similar things at thework place. LIke, hey "i'm gona ask for your phone number later ok?" then ignore them until they initiate again. so far, its has gotten all their attention.
From my workplace experience, it takes time for your advances to sink into their head (women coworkers).
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Anyone see the latest james bond? When he said the line about what he can do with his little finger? The girl would have either called him a pervert or laughed because she isn't clever enough to know how to respond to that...if it was in a real situation.
This will work with some girls, with some others it won't, it could even scare some away. I say go for it and use it when the situation comes up, but don't try to force this **** out of your throat like some bulimic *****...it wont feel natural for the girl.
She was trying to get people to sign up for the store credit card, and she goes...sign up for one. I was like I already have one. She goes...then get another one. I then said...if I was one of the guy customers, i'd go...i'll sign up for a credit card as long as you take me out to dinner.
She laughed and goes...You'll be the one with the credit card, so you should take me out.
She flipped that one quick and I was like... You are right, and good one.
Sometimes there are so many funny things I could say, but again at work you have to be careful (though its a fun environment)
Like one day she was like...Can I have one of your apple slices? I wanted to go...Only if I can see your apples
Then the next time I saw her I was eating a banana, and she goes, can I have a bite? YOU KNOW where I wanted to go with that one. :yes:
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.