tryst type
Master Don Juan
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What the? I've had two girls admit this to me in the past week after I felt they weren't feeling it and I simply moved on. What's going on? Something I'm doing wrong?
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Just goes to show that there is no formula.tryst type said:Then days will pass and they'll ask why I stopped contacting them. I say I thought not hearing from you meant you weren't interested so I moved on, then they admit they were interested just wanted me to pursue more.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
I would advise to avoid the bold, IMO and experience it is 10x better to "leave things open". If the plate has any interests she will give you subtle hints for future dates during the first. EX: she talks about other date ideas, she's kinoing you.tryst type said:What I mean is, the date will go fine then when I follow up I never hear from them. I'll send a text a couple days later and nothing.
Then days will pass and they'll ask why I stopped contacting them. I say I thought not hearing from you meant you weren't interested so I moved on, then they admit they were interested just wanted me to pursue more.
Whaat?
Only thing I can think of is at the end of the first date I don't make mention of another or try to set one up before she leaves, I just leave things open.
Right there.Desdinova said:Always assume interest unless proven otherwise.
So just act as if I hadn't noticed?hockeyfreak79 said:I would advise to avoid the bold, IMO and experience it is 10x better to "leave things open". If the plate has any interests she will give you subtle hints for future dates during the first. EX: she talks about other date ideas, she's kinoing you.
I say I thought not hearing from you meant you weren't interested so I moved on.
I would avoid saying this^^ Always display 100% confidence.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
You tell her the truth. You tell her "you didn't text me back, I guess your fingers were broken?"tryst type said:So just act as if I hadn't noticed?
In some cases these women did mention other date ideas during the first meet.Knight's Cross said:HF 79 is right, every chick that was high interest with me gave it away on date 1 by mentioning date ideas during the first date. That's chick speak for, "Please call me in the near future I want to spend more time with you".
Sounds like you weren't these girls first option. Action, Action, Action. If a woman isn't making it easy i.e. answering your texts promptly, tossing date ideas, etc. then she isn't interested.
Could also be an attempt to set the frame in her favor right from the outset (women do that too, even if they don't call it "setting the frame"). The good news is that you don't have to play her silly little game and "pursue" her. Women like that are generally toxic and to be avoided.zekko said:If she IS interested, but doesn't answer my texts, then I would consider that a display of disrespect. I'm not going to put up with a bunch of games from a woman.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
I think that a lot of those women are lying about you being their first "online date". It seems that more than 50% of the women I meet online claim that they just joined the site a week ago (most also claim that their friends made them do it...) and haven't been on any dates yet. If this was 1998, I could believe that, but in 2013, it's rather unrealistic.tryst type said:In some cases these women did mention other date ideas during the first meet.
Most of these women I met online, some of which chose me to be the first person they'd meet because as they'd say "it felt ok to as oppose to the other men who messaged me"
Here's a theory, let me know what you guys think. They meet me and have a decent to pretty good time, however since they're getting a number of messages still and I'm sure they love the attention, since our first meet went well it gives them confidence to go out with these other men now.
Agreed. Though I know some were new and after meeting me it gave them some confidence since I'm not creepy and try to grope them all night (at least not in a weird way)Bokanovsky said:I think that a lot of those women are lying about you being their first "online date". It seems that more than 50% of the women I meet online claim that they just joined the site a week ago (most also claim that their friends made them do it...) and haven't been on any dates yet. If this was 1998, I could believe that, but in 2013, it's rather unrealistic.
I think the real problem is that women on online dating sites get so much attention and go on so many dates that it all starts to blend together. Sure she had a good time with you but she also had a good time with 5 other dudes that week. It's classic problem of over-saturation. It's like when you're spinning plates, if the girl is not your top plate, you sometimes don't even feel like replying to her messages cause it seems like a bit of drag.
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.