tryst type
Master Don Juan
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What the? I've had two girls admit this to me in the past week after I felt they weren't feeling it and I simply moved on. What's going on? Something I'm doing wrong?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Just goes to show that there is no formula.tryst type said:Then days will pass and they'll ask why I stopped contacting them. I say I thought not hearing from you meant you weren't interested so I moved on, then they admit they were interested just wanted me to pursue more.
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.
I would advise to avoid the bold, IMO and experience it is 10x better to "leave things open". If the plate has any interests she will give you subtle hints for future dates during the first. EX: she talks about other date ideas, she's kinoing you.tryst type said:What I mean is, the date will go fine then when I follow up I never hear from them. I'll send a text a couple days later and nothing.
Then days will pass and they'll ask why I stopped contacting them. I say I thought not hearing from you meant you weren't interested so I moved on, then they admit they were interested just wanted me to pursue more.
Whaat?
Only thing I can think of is at the end of the first date I don't make mention of another or try to set one up before she leaves, I just leave things open.
Right there.Desdinova said:Always assume interest unless proven otherwise.
So just act as if I hadn't noticed?hockeyfreak79 said:I would advise to avoid the bold, IMO and experience it is 10x better to "leave things open". If the plate has any interests she will give you subtle hints for future dates during the first. EX: she talks about other date ideas, she's kinoing you.
I say I thought not hearing from you meant you weren't interested so I moved on.
I would avoid saying this^^ Always display 100% confidence.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
You tell her the truth. You tell her "you didn't text me back, I guess your fingers were broken?"tryst type said:So just act as if I hadn't noticed?
In some cases these women did mention other date ideas during the first meet.Knight's Cross said:HF 79 is right, every chick that was high interest with me gave it away on date 1 by mentioning date ideas during the first date. That's chick speak for, "Please call me in the near future I want to spend more time with you".
Sounds like you weren't these girls first option. Action, Action, Action. If a woman isn't making it easy i.e. answering your texts promptly, tossing date ideas, etc. then she isn't interested.
Could also be an attempt to set the frame in her favor right from the outset (women do that too, even if they don't call it "setting the frame"). The good news is that you don't have to play her silly little game and "pursue" her. Women like that are generally toxic and to be avoided.zekko said:If she IS interested, but doesn't answer my texts, then I would consider that a display of disrespect. I'm not going to put up with a bunch of games from a woman.
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
I think that a lot of those women are lying about you being their first "online date". It seems that more than 50% of the women I meet online claim that they just joined the site a week ago (most also claim that their friends made them do it...) and haven't been on any dates yet. If this was 1998, I could believe that, but in 2013, it's rather unrealistic.tryst type said:In some cases these women did mention other date ideas during the first meet.
Most of these women I met online, some of which chose me to be the first person they'd meet because as they'd say "it felt ok to as oppose to the other men who messaged me"
Here's a theory, let me know what you guys think. They meet me and have a decent to pretty good time, however since they're getting a number of messages still and I'm sure they love the attention, since our first meet went well it gives them confidence to go out with these other men now.
Agreed. Though I know some were new and after meeting me it gave them some confidence since I'm not creepy and try to grope them all night (at least not in a weird way)Bokanovsky said:I think that a lot of those women are lying about you being their first "online date". It seems that more than 50% of the women I meet online claim that they just joined the site a week ago (most also claim that their friends made them do it...) and haven't been on any dates yet. If this was 1998, I could believe that, but in 2013, it's rather unrealistic.
I think the real problem is that women on online dating sites get so much attention and go on so many dates that it all starts to blend together. Sure she had a good time with you but she also had a good time with 5 other dudes that week. It's classic problem of over-saturation. It's like when you're spinning plates, if the girl is not your top plate, you sometimes don't even feel like replying to her messages cause it seems like a bit of drag.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.