"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Girlfriend staying over at a guy's place
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
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She may even be secretly hoping for this ultimatum so she can sleep with this guy without any guilt attached. I know there are different schools of thought about this sort of thing, but to me her even bringing it up is a huge red flag that would disqualify her with me. I wouldn't put up with it.
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
guitaronfire411
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(I don't post often here but lurk the forums sometimes.)
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The icing on the cake is that you aren't allowed to come over. HAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They aren't just friends. She wants to screw him. Maybe they already are. She should have exhausted every option with you first.
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Sorry to tell you, but you my friend, handled it like a pro beta male.guitaronfire411 said:
luckily for you, you're here so we'll make sure this doesn't happen again...or at least less often.
her : you can't come
you: why not?
her: cuz he doesn't wanna and its his place
you: why won't he let me stay i'm your bf
her: ****stupid female bull**** excuse"***
you: maybe he wants u there by yourself
her: ****more female bull*******
you: i thought u said he was dying to meet me
her: ****more more more female bull*******
you: so you're telling me that that guy doesn't want me, your bf, to come over and stay with u? wtf?
after that it's smooth sailing...combination of making her feel guilty, instigations of her liking the guy and being a slut, fear of a break up, guy might be a rapist/murderer, you looking alpha and ****...etc.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
Pimp-sicle
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Konada said:
LOL! The OP brought this thread back from the dead himself. If you go over to the MM forum you will see he made a new post there.
This chick is bad news, but the OP has a lot of work to do on himself since he clearly doesn't respect himself and will take the first girl that gives him attention.
Its a learning phase, one that we all go through; learn your value as a man, keep improving your stance in life and these demon women won't have a shot at ruining your life.
The fact that he has been putting up with this $hit since 2009ish is beyond me.
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Atom Smasher
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No girl I've ever had a relationship with would ever dream of asking me such a question. It should be obvious what was going on at the time, and almost unbelievably some of you were clueless when the thread first appeared. Now we have the other newer thread in MM showing you exactly what was going on.
Making a big deal out of nothing? I can't imagine being this naieve as a man. You guys who advised him this way shock me with your naivete.
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Women have brainwashed guys into thinking they must allow them to have their "male friends", or else they are jealous, possessive, and insecure. Just the right buttons to push, because what man wants to be those things?Atom Smasher said:
The other batch of guys who don't object are looking to screw around themselves, and this makes it easy for them.
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
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guitaronfire411
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The guy in question was one of her first friends and a coworker at her old job when she originally moved here.
Some people wanted to know what happened so I'll write this. The girl said that it was a huge mistake and she only stayed over that one time. She hasn't gone over there ever after since I had made her feel superbad about the whole deal. She scolded the guy saying that she didn't need him as she has me as her sole protector. I was there when that happened. The guy was calling her a few months ago in the summer but got incensed when he found out that she wasn't single. She also told me that whenever she mentioned me in the past, he would get very angry (and likely jealous) that she was still in love with me. That is it.
Scars
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Long story short, women with high interest don't agree to live with some dude a lone. The whole "I can't find another place", just seems like a big pile of stinky bullsh!t to me.
-Scars
guitaronfire411
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The guy offered to have her live with him but mentioned that I would not like it. I once asked her if she would ever take him up but she said that he was weird and a 'desperate and lonely old guy' ... 'with no friends'.
I made it clear that she isn't allowed to go over there because he has non-friendly intentions. I did say he could come over to her place as long as I, or other people are there as well. She agreed to this and said she won't go over there anymore.