I was talking to this girl I used to work with the other day. She's cute (HB7-8 at least) so at the end of the convo I said she should give me her number. Without hesitation she gave me her number and then I gave her mine (she said sweet when I gave her mine, lol). Anyway later I found out that she might have a boyfriend. Was she just giving me her number because she thought I wanted to be her friend (never talked to her when we worked together, so we're not friends). Should I just pretend that she doesn't have a bf (I don't know for certain that she has one, it's not like she told me or anything) and just ask her out for a drink. Thanks for your input.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Girl with a boyfriend gave me her number
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The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
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Inviting her out for drinks sounds like a great idea. If she's committed, she'll decline.
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slaog said:
WRONG!!!
Don't even bring up the subject. If she's serious with the bf let her bring it up. Otherwise you risk her getting feeling guilty or slutty and "logicing out". You have to maintain appearances so she has plausible deniability.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Yeah, but hanging out and flirting a bit is really messing with someone's woman. Who knows, maybe she's the type that waits around for a better deal to come to her (possibly why she never mentioned her boyfriend). It's not like I'm gonna fvck her on the first meet, I do have some class.slaog said:
sodbuster
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Women will SAY they have a BF alot more often then they have one. Not sure if they are trying to show preselection or just a way of bailing out if it gets uncomfortable around you.
Prodigy746
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why do you think she has a bf?
"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
BustedKnucks
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Morally, I'd skip on this *****.
Or ask her to hang out, and if I see interest from her, tell her I'm not interested in stealing someone's girl.
It's a low move, even if it's the girl's fault, I wouldn't do that to someone else, even if I thought they sucked.
Besides, when you tell her this, if she is interested, at the next sign of a fight with her bf she will leave him and call you. You are securing a future booty call.
Or ask her to hang out, and if I see interest from her, tell her I'm not interested in stealing someone's girl.
It's a low move, even if it's the girl's fault, I wouldn't do that to someone else, even if I thought they sucked.
Besides, when you tell her this, if she is interested, at the next sign of a fight with her bf she will leave him and call you. You are securing a future booty call.
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BustedKnucks said:
If the girl is gonna cheat, it might as well be with me. You can have the moral high ground.
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A girl who worked at the same place as me back in the summer had a boyfriend. We chatted it up on facebook a bit and I told her to give me her number because talking over the internet is lame, and she did.
Of course, I'd then call her and talk a bit, and then ask to talk to her sister and proceed to ask her sister out. Bahaha yes I was quite a chump back then.
Of course, I'd then call her and talk a bit, and then ask to talk to her sister and proceed to ask her sister out. Bahaha yes I was quite a chump back then.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
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I'm saying a chump cause of the way I asked her sister out.Kal0051 said:
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As much as I hate it when women cheat, the fact of the matter is that he doesn't own her. She's still free to boink whoever she feels like and if the statistics are to be believed most women (and 20% of men) have multiple partners at any given time anyway.slaog said:
TheBucketOfTruth
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Assume the sale. Don't worry about the boyfriend issue unless it comes up. You can "think" all you want, or pay attention to hearsay, but if you're not sure just proceed as normal for now.