"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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girl says she doesn't like talking on the phone?

tony-montana

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this girl i met on myspace (yeah i know myspace is gay but this was ages ago) we been emailing each other for a while but with big gaps on her behalf mostly. she usually takes like... a week or something to reply sometimes im lucky and get an instant reply. guess she's a busy girl like any other. anyway so i decide to just bring out the question about her number so we can speak on the phone instead and she comes back with:

I been bad again, sorry. Been a rough few weeks. I hate talking on the phone so can we keep emailing?? :)
Hope you are good and so's the pooch

i actually tried to forget about her since she took so long to reply AND after i asked for her number. she read my reply the day i sent it but replied like two weeks later? i was thinking "okay i guess that's out the window." and forget about her then she suddenly replies. crazy eh? to be honest it's a bit of relief that she doesn't wanna talk on the phone as i too hate talking on it and love to chat/email/type, whatever. she sent that two weeks ago and i only just read it today so i've been bad myself :p

is there something i should know about this phone business cause i know all girls love phones. i'm guessing it's because she doesn't know me too well and would feel weird?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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i have never heard a woman say she hates talking on the phone, and not only do i know alot of women, but i am one of them.
 

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so you are probably thinking what i am thinking. that she's just trying to bring it down nicely instead of saying "i don't wanna talk to YOU on the phone." i hate liars and you women do that alot.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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so you are probably thinking what i am thinking. that she's just trying to bring it down nicely instead of saying "i don't wanna talk to YOU on the phone."
Yep. Either that or it's a fake profile and she's a 40 year old guy who's messing with you.
 

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it's not a guy unless she's put up over 20 photos of a fake girl and her at a friends wedding etc. i'm thinking of telling her straight out i know she's just trying to be nice but i don't need to be lied to:

"aww i know you love talking on the phone you can't fool me :p you just don't want to give me your number and that's cool. if it's emails you want that's fine."

i feel like adding a "JUST DONT FUKING LIE TO ME!!!"
 

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She's probably not interested in you, that's really the only way I see it as.
 

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this is what i hate about women. why not just fuking tell me or don't reply. geez. i was just forgetting about her then two weeks later she replies the dumb fuk.
 

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tony-montana said:
this is what i hate about women. why not just fuking tell me or don't reply. geez. i was just forgetting about her then two weeks later she replies the dumb fuk.
Women are nice and don't want to hurt other people's feelings, that's why. I've learnt this lesson countless times. What I've also learnt is that it's not too late. You can still get her attracted to you, the problem is you need to wait it out, maybe a couple of months, and then talk to her.

If she's not interested in you, there must be something wrong with your game. Try to fix up what you think you need work on with other women, then go back to her.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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trust me pal.. i done all i can through a damn message. ask her questions and questions cause we all know they love talkin about themselves. i don't really use myspace at all i just came across this one profile.. read it and i was attracted to it. basically all we say in our messages is how are you i did this the weekend that just went etc. cause we both already know what our hobbies/interests are. going to run out of things to talk about soon. in person it's different.
 

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I'm a girl too... hope you don't mind my popping in...

I have found that there are some people (both men and women) who just are not good at connecting in the "real" world.

They either like to email a lot, or some want to be phone buddies. These are people (both men and women can be this way) who are more interested in having a sounding board or having someone bear witness to their lives so they feel less alone (limited to the "what I did today" type sharing). They are not actually interested in actively participating in sharing themselves and their actual life WITH you, though. Sharing ABOUT your day is nice - but actually sharing a day together - two different things.

It's best to find out sooner rather than later what kind of person you are dealing with so you can decide accordingly if you want to continue contact or not.
 

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LovelyLady said:
It's best to find out sooner rather than later what kind of person you are dealing with so you can decide accordingly if you want to continue contact or not.
and how do you suggest one does that? you can't really just ask "hey are we gonna meet one day or are we just going to keep emailing each other." to be honest i'm sure she gets plenty attention from guys when she's out so i doubt she wants to meet some guy she emails. maybe i'm just wasting my time.
 

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tony-montana said:
I hate talking on the phone so can we keep emailing??
That is her answer. Her needs are being met through emiling - yours are not. And your needs matter too. This is a sign of incompatability, IMHO. Now advice on getting her more interested and seducing her, etc. - I leave that to the men to tell you LOL

I do think evaluating if you want to put energy towards a relationship with someone who doesn't want to (or cannot ) talk with you on the phone - regardless of why - is something worth processing. Your needs matter too - even in friendships, much less romance.
 

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how about leaving this wast of time alone and find a real life girl
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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War Against Betaism said:
Women are nice and don't want to hurt other people's feelings, that's why. I've learnt this lesson countless times. .
Um no. They just want to avoid any uncomfortable feelings they'll experience if they're upfront. To hell with what you think.
 

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she IS a real life girl... on a computer. lol. she doesn't know me yet to like me. in person it would be a different story but i don't think i even like her anymore. her star sign sucks and i know someone who has the same star sign. no good. yes you're all probably right. emails don't go nowhere. i think i'm just attracted to her looks *shrugs*
 

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mrRuckus said:
Um no. They just want to avoid any uncomfortable feelings they'll experience if they're upfront. To hell with what you think.
To hell with what you think.
 

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tony-montana said:
she IS a real life girl... on a computer. lol. she doesn't know me yet to like me. in person it would be a different story but i don't think i even like her anymore. her star sign sucks and i know someone who has the same star sign. no good. yes you're all probably right. emails don't go nowhere. i think i'm just attracted to her looks *shrugs*
:box: Star sign !!!! are you kidding? Dude, star signs are for women. Have you ever seen your star sign in any mens magazines?

GET OFF YOUR COMPUTER AND FIND A REAL LIFE GIRL TO TALK TO. STOP HIDING BEHIND YOUR COMPUTER!!!!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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