"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Girl just broke up with boyfriend
- Thread starter aWolf
- Start date
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
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Master Don Juan
You treat her like any other girl. Do you have her number? Call her up and ask her out. If she's interested then she'll go out. If not, then move on.
If she broke up with him then she's ready for someone else (or has possibly already found him). If he broke up with her it will be harder.
Either way you will not know unless you try.
At least put some effort into your thread....aWolf said:
There isn't, she either will or she won't. There isn't a list of tricks you can use. Sounds to me that you're too focused on one individual girl. Snap out of this delusional way of thinking. Get out there, improve yourself, and meet some other girl.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
However, I have managed several times to let a girl go on and on about her recent ex, and then ended up fvcking her. It works as long as you make sure to immediately steer the direction of the relationship toward being physical. She can bawl on my shoulder all she wants, as long as my hand is slowly working its way up her thigh...
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Uncharted
Master Don Juan
This is true. I think the advice on here is to meant to not let girls go on and on and treat you like a girlfriend. You need to make sure she knows that you want a physical relationship (male/lover) and not an emotional one (female/friend). You do this by PHYSICALLY escalating - fearlessly and without apology.Bible_Belt said:
If you think you can't handle this - the best thing to say when she bring up her boyfriend is something like "that sounds like sad talk - let's go have some fun". Then do something exciting - isolate and escalate.