"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Girl is coming up to visit tomorrow, in need of advice

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Here's the history. A girl named Kelly has been sleeping with one of my roommates for a long time now. Sam lives about 100 miles away but comes and visits every few weekends. She visited last weekend and brought her friend Erin (HB8) along. We went to a college house party that night. Using the knowledge that I've gained as a member of this forum, I was able to create attraction.

We left the party together and found ourselves in my bedroom when we got back to my apartment. We made out a long time. I unsnapped her bra but her shirt never came off. I undid her belt and unzipped her jeans but she put on resistance everytime that I tried to reach down to the promised land. She however made a poor attempt at jacking me off. She slept in my bed that night. I didn't number close her.

She wasn't a good kisser and didn't know how to work a penis so I assumed that night that she was a virgin. I found out the next day that she indeed is.

She is coming back to visit tomorrow.

How can I get her comfortable and trusting enough in order to lay her?

What are some tips on how to deal with a first timer?

p.s. I'm also a virgin, but I wish that she wasn't so that this would be easier.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

Read more...

reyalp

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read gunwitch guide
 
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Originally posted by reyalp
read gunwitch guide
I have read it. Thought it was a great article too. Maybe I'll read it again.

I created this thread fishing for techniques specific to virgins though.
 

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ah, gotcha.

rub on top of her jeans down there like you're rubbing on a genie bottle and wishing that her pants would disappear. they just might!
 
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