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acting mature is not the same as being mature
How is "being" seperate from action? So a soul is so it does.
Your about to open a can of worms you dont have the azz to hang out in.
There is a philosophy thread going. Go visit it.
I swear some of you guys never look into a womans eyes. I mean look in them.
 

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How is "being" seperate from action? So a soul is so it does.
Your about to open a can of worms you dont have the azz to hang out in.
There is a philosophy thread going. Go visit it.
I swear some of you guys never look into a womans eyes. I mean look in them.
and action in front of people is just an act not what she really is lot of people act like they are good people, the moment you turn your back there come the knife.

but yes, its a can of worms, though even the mature looking ones tend to do a lot of imature decisions, but hey if is any consolation, both men and woman are like childrens, only some fake it better
 

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I think this is one thing rollo wont mention in his books. Women are much smarter then men when they're young, probably this is the reason dads and their daughters have so great relationships. Men are the opposite, they're dumb when they're young and they grow to be smarter, while women start to lose their sharpness of mind with age... and this is the reason moms and sons have better relationships. the only phase men and women are equally smart/dumb is when they're at their 90s, if they were lucky/unlucky enough to get there

Just speak up my stupid mind
think had enough internet for this week
"Smarter" vs "dumber" it was established that their gender tends to be more emotional and more manipulative. So they can get what they want easier as babies and youngins. As they get older less people will be willing to be manipulated so they can look more "stupid" in comparison, when they relied on their witt, and manipulation to get things done.
 

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Physically...
Childless
Good looking body
Great prospective genes
Family (respects dad,)
Educated
How she treats you
Behavior
Positive attitude
Obedience

Just to name a few.
In OPs situation
When you target 25+ you are targeting the trade in thats some other dudes problem that your going to become the reaper there of. Garenteed...
 

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"Smarter" vs "dumber" it was established that their gender tends to be more emotional and more manipulative. So they can get what they want easier as babies and youngins. As they get older less people will be willing to be manipulated so they can look more "stupid" in comparison, when they relied on their witt, and manipulation to get things done.
They know that most men will cave as soon as they start showing their passive or vulnerable sides. When it comes to other women they become devious and start spreading dirty rumors, which are also aimed at triggering emotional reactions in other people.

This is why there is no need for women to develop logical reasoning in their adult life. Some women have it. But those are the outliers. They possibly grew up being closer to their fathers or brothers, or became attractive later than their peers and thus had to develop a deeper personality.
 

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They know that most men will cave as soon as they start showing their passive or vulnerable sides. When it comes to other women they become devious and start spreading dirty rumors, which are also aimed at triggering emotional reactions in other people.

This is why there is no need for women to develop logical reasoning in their adult life. Some women have it. But those are the outliers. They possibly grew up being closer to their fathers or brothers, or became attractive later than their peers and thus had to develop a deeper personality.
Some of em weren't attractive enough to manipulate or lesbians so they had to learn how to take care of theirselves. The other type , always has someone else taking care of them, doing things for them, etc.
 

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Some of em weren't attractive enough to manipulate or lesbians so they had to learn how to take care of theirselves. The other type , always has someone else taking care of them, doing things for them, etc.
Yes, and I pity the men who are being "gentlemen" to these types of women...
 

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Then that is the beginning of the end for you. Just the way you justified yourself and explained yourself to her and felt the need to tell her how much money you make and also how much money you have saved. That's a bad way to go.
This is one piece of advice this site gives that I don’t agree with: to never explain yourself.

I would say always explain yourself.
By not explaining yourself it shows you have entitlement issues and are hiding something,
Instead, use your words to give her comfort, give her trust, give her the belief she is making the right decision being with you. Then when she falls in love and is hooked, you can do whatever you want.

We are playing poker gentlemen. The women have to sit at the table to play. We don’t hit them over the head while they are walking through the door.
 

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The only thing that really matters, is how hard you banged her after that talk. I hope you didn't cumm quick after telling her how much money you make
 

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I think it's more embarrassing or shameful for a grown man WITH KIDS, to still be living with his mom. If you don't have kids I see it as smart, you're saving money, you don't have to prove anything to anyone
 

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no woman are not smarter when younger, people are more forgiving for woman mistakes when tehy are young, and more important hot, what most woman do is captalize that and make it her living, remember about the wholea woman never paid for her drinks going out at night?, driving around? yeah also most guys who do so, pretty much a young woman have more income then a young men just because a younge men will spend his money to stay with a woman, with a woman will spend her money on her
"Smarter" vs "dumber" it was established that their gender tends to be more emotional and more manipulative. So they can get what they want easier as babies and youngins. As they get older less people will be willing to be manipulated so they can look more "stupid" in comparison, when they relied on their witt, and manipulation to get things done.
Actually was thinking the same thing while writing that replay... they "smarter" because they getting away with doing stuff + law of attraction. Think it would be accurate to their teenage & sexual phases.
I talking before this. Men would do all kind of stuff in their childhood and not care about the consequences, while girls would observe their environment and the people in it. They would make eye contact, look for facial expressions, and learn what's "good" and what's "bad". You may call it attention seeking, which true (and men do it as well but in a different way), the difference is in the effectiveness of the method they're using.
 

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Here's my point of view:
1. She likes you. Doesn't seem like it bothers HER much that you live with your mother.
2. It looks like this is bothering you more. You should always be honest, otherwise you are only tricking yourself.
If a woman asks, you answer honestly. If she's a golddigger, you might dodge a bullet by doing this. If she's genuinely interested in you, she will understand that you are taking care of your family. Nothing wrong with that.
3. As long as you don't see a problem in living with your mother, no one important in your life will. And contrary to quite a few oppinions here, I don't think it is. Any woman comming into your life will know that when/if the time to move in with/marry a woman will come, you'll do it. But until then, this is the arrangement. Deal with it or move on.

I wouldn't stress about this any more if I were you. And I see no reason to dump the girl.
 

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Man, never apologize or feel ambivalent about supporting your family. Family ALWAYS comes first. If she can't deal with it, it's her bad. You seem to be a good guy with ideals. If she wants to build this narrative in her head that a man shouldn't live with his parents/mother, you can't do sh*t about it. You can't rationalize her expectations away. It will catch up with you. There is no win-win situation here.

She's the type of woman that doesn't value family as much as you do. If she were, she would love you even more for helping your mom out. Enjoy the time with her and then cut her out when she starts nagging too much - which will definitely happen sooner or later.
And if family works against you and is your greatest downfall like member "blacksheep"? Should you be shamed when your independent and stay away?
 

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And if family works against you and is your greatest downfall like member "blacksheep"? Should you be shamed when your independent and stay away?
No, you should get the f*ck out of there if your family actively tries to hold you down. Family is never perfect. It's always chaotic and people say stuff sometimes because they know you won't abandon them. But those are the people who literally are your day ones.

If your family isn't malicious towards you or tries to manipulate you, you should cut them some slack in my opinion. Loyalty and trust are key. A loving family is the most valuable thing in the world.
 

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No, you should get the f*ck out of there if your family actively tries to hold you down. Family is never perfect. It's always chaotic and people say stuff sometimes because they know you won't abandon them. But those are the people who literally are your day ones.

If your family isn't malicious towards you or tries to manipulate you, you should cut them some slack in my opinion. Loyalty and trust are key. A loving family is the most valuable thing in the world.
I was just saying everyone doesn't have a loyal family that has their best interest in mind.
 

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No, you should get the f*ck out of there if your family actively tries to hold you down. Family is never perfect. It's always chaotic and people say stuff sometimes because they know you won't abandon them. But those are the people who literally are your day ones.

If your family isn't malicious towards you or tries to manipulate you, you should cut them some slack in my opinion. Loyalty and trust are key. A loving family is the most valuable thing in the world.
This is a thing I going through right now. Not making contact with my family already for more than 4 months, in the past 7yrs been living far from home already. Harder to do than actually say. All kind of things go through the mind. Would suggest to someone who want to doit to come out with some fake story.. like going for a job in a different country. I dont think my family is bad, just their perception of myself and mine is different
 

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This is a thing I going through right now. Not making contact with my family already for more than 4 months, in the past 7yrs been living far from home already. Harder to do than actually say. All kind of things go through the mind. Would suggest to someone who want to doit to come out with some fake story.. like going for a job in a different country. I dont think my family is bad, just their perception of myself and mine is different
A man should always pursue his goals, regardless of what anybody says. And that's not just a wishy-washy quote you'd find on Pinterest. The people who love you, usually want the best for you. But sometimes they just don't know what the best is. Only you know what to do. If they support you along the way, perfect. If not, you fulfill your goals anyway.

There are so many different familial circumstances out there, I can't even imagine them. That's why I can't talk for everybody. Some people grow up in a sh*tshow of a family home. That's why I've said "a loving family is the most valuable thing". As long as you stick with them when push comes to shove, you're good. Which will happen automatically.
 

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I see where you're coming from, brother.
Some of the families don't think they are doing wrong. In many cased when they "help" their family member its done to force/enforce their viewpoint of them. Which is often hugely limiting or marginalizing. In blacksheeps situation the "abuses" where in effect by design to keep him small, keep him manageable, keep him in position. A position that allows them to feel "better" about themselves.
 
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