"The Kiss of Death Mistake"
You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Girl holding off on giving me her number.
- Thread starter 00Kevin
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
I don't really think women can be delineated as either wholesome or hot in this case. I think a better division is by women who know what they want and women who think that they know what they want.
I've found that women who truly know what they want in a guy AND trust themselves enough to be able to handle if they make a bad choice or not are usually more up front and less into either the game playing or the extreme take it slow type stuff.
You can usually recognize these type of women by their initial profile or correspondence they send you. Their character traits are usually confidence, straight forward (not necessarily brash) and they will tell you specifically what they liked about your profile or email. They will usually tell you straight away. Also, they don't usually play the "we'll trade a ton of emails" type games.
They are usually decent qualifiers and would want to move things along if they see that you could be the one. Don't be surprised if they skip the whole phone thing and ask to meet for coffee. I like that type of woman. Even if there isn't a romantic connection, she is usually a woman I could hang out with just because she's cool and confident.
btw bro I did read that she gave you her number before I put up my post. It still doesnt change the fact that shes highly likely to have no interest. But i hope I'm wrong
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Banned
For chicks? this is the understatement of the year.
Nailed it.
Whether she finally caved and reluctantly gave up her number to keep you chasing after the dangled carrot is irrelevant, has nothing to do with anything and youve totally missed the bigger picture.
Until you stick your d!ck in her puzzy getting defensive is futile and just sh!t talk.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Dust 2 Dust
Master Don Juan
If your ignoring strategy worked then she knew she had to do something to keep you coming back for more so she gave you the number to appease you so you'll keep chasing the dangling carrot.