"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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baltyre

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I'm 29, a professional that has done well in my career, though I'm not rich by any means. The girl I've been dating since Oct is 28. We see each other about 1X or 2X a week. What type of gift would you recommend I get her for Valentine's Day? I'm not cheap, so money isn't the concern, it's just getting the appropriate type thing for her. Any suggestions?

And I'm not AFC, have not bought her any type of gift, flowers, etc... until this point.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Crazy Asian

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ur not AFC?
and ur asking this question?

it's ok lol
most of us are still AFC inside, but we fake it till we make it.

about the gift, i would go with anything too expensive.
Make it mean something since it's valentines.

i'm 16 lol, so i wouldn't know wut to give someone that's 28.... but at my school, i'd give girls chocolate, teddy bears.... just something thats red and heart shaped :rock:
 

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I always get chicks those goofy candy hearts with sayings on them. it's like a buck fifty for a decent sized container.
 

(JJ)

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those taste like straight up crap though!
 

guru1000

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I make it a point not to buy anything for a plate except for her birthday. On Valentine's day my gift to my first place plate will be a get-away weekend. My gift to my runner-ups will be to continue seeing them.

Keep your FRAME.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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J Roc

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Why do you feel the need to buy her a gift when she isn't your girlfriend!!!!!!???
 

The Bat

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Pretend that you're getting castrated in the morning.

Now go wild with her in bed.

That's the best gift you can give her.
 

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You haven't told us yet how tight you are with this chick. What do "dating" and "seeing" mean in YOUR OWN words?
For a lot of us, those words mean next-to-nothing. Too many of us have learned that even "sleeping" with a chick can mean NO $ex! If you're having $ex every time you get together, it means a lot more than just meeting up to go shopping or walking her dog. This chick is special, or at least she thinks she is. In that case, go all out for her.
I don't go by "The Rules", generally, but the Rule about gift-giving makes total sense: Special occasion gifts shall be frivolous and romantic, not sporty or functional.
I've worked for this lovely talented dame for more than ten years, we've "dated" a few times, no $ex. She's done more for my career than just about anyone, so that makes her special. I'm not going wild, but I'm getting her a book about rescued dogs along with a bunch of flowers.
She once told me, I don't need to bring her flowers, which I do for no special occasion. I asked her, "Who else brings you flowers?" Um, nobody, apparently.
 

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I'm getting the girl I would like to get naked a bag of GREEN M&Ms, a funny card, and 2 Purple Roses. Inside the card is going to be a print out of the song "Dirty Mind" from Prince.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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good grief, either i'm so unromantic or old or i dunno what...
but on valentines, i just don't like the crowds when you try to go out.
last year, gio called up chilis and gave them our order and he picked it up, and i made sure there were fresh brownies and cookies and cupcakes ... we had the best time camped out in front of a movie in our very own house.

no need for the little trinkets that later collect dust, or flowers that die in a week....
 

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I think candle light dinner is the best,.,.,.,.:rockon:
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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I.A.F.Y.B.

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Give her a box of chocolates, a CD, take her to a spa or whatever those places are to get a massage... Or like selfmademob said; a d!ck in the box.
 

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My girlfriend and her friends have boycotted valentines day (even though all of them are dating someone. They think that it is an over hyped holiday)

comic_relief
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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