"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"Ghost" in between dates & "texting game."

spiegel549

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This site has been fan ****ing tastic with helping me increase my game from beta ***** to being the Alpha running the show.

I am about to go on my 4th date with this chick, last date I slept over her place, we showered together in the a.m. she made me breakfast etc. It was a big step into a new comfort zone.

Now since she is starting to open up more to me, not being so shy, telling me jokes, not afraid to be herself, I get the urge recently to contact her in between dates.

I have been playing it no joke, like a pro. REALLY playing it with my A+ game and in between dates I have not texted her, and I don't call her unless I am setting up another date.

At this point I know guys that have great "texting game" meaning in between dates they can text a broad and build up some great rapport. Were I suck at texting and really don't like doing it unless I have to. I am all about face to face communication.

I understand how I got her to this point, and I refuse to change my overall game play. This chick is 19 in college, I am 25 and working a full time job. Which is the only reason why I start to think...(do I need to start texting her?) you know how 19 year old broads are with texting lol..

Can it hurt me to just stick to what I have been doing which is keeping "radio silence" in between dates? Especially because so far it has been working out this way excellent.


Thanks men!
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Stick with what is working...if your texting sucks the only thing that will happen are bad things....

You can send a text or two back and forth if she initiates but don't get into long drawn out convo's via text...especially non sexual ones...
 

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Agreed with marmel. And forget this wait an hour in between here texts. I used to do that but I find texting back whenever I'm near my phone is what is best. Could be 5,10 , 20 minutes up to hours depending on what I'm doing. But I noticed this girl I used to do that too used to do the same thing to me. Wait hours to text me back then I started doing what I stated above and she texts back within 1-3 minutes. I think waiting in between means that your not interested in them enough to answer a simple text.
 

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This is going to depend on what her intention and your intention is towards the 'Beyond 4th date' mentality. Are you two looking for a LTR or just FBs??

Depending on what each other is seeking - say for LTR, you are at a 4th date buddy and showering naked?? Start slacking up a bit with the game and get a bit real if you want the woman to be emotionally attached to you. You did not clarify if you have had sex with her yet; showering together doesn't mean that directly nor imply such.

If not have sex yet, do it soon so her oxytocin kicks in and then she would become biologically attached to you. Game is for the beginning, become a more real man with being a bit more vulnerable with your emotions for her (though don't ever let her know she has you 100% ever) is what a LTR woman is looking for, not players. Always make sure she knows you are the PRIZE and you have OPTIONS, yet picked her instead for now.... a woman must always need to be a bit uneasy and on the edge with her man in a LTR to constantly affirm that she is making the right decision because most women can't make sh*t with knowing what they want in life.

She will constantly come in contact with other men who will try to orbit her, thus you need to always stand in your control as a man and make it clear in her mind that you are still and always the prize because the constant comparision against other 'aggressors' and men orbiting around her makes it so for all of any woman's life.

With respect,

Exodus
 

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GotED? said:
This is going to depend on what her intention and your intention is towards the 'Beyond 4th date' mentality. Are you two looking for a LTR or just FBs??

Depending on what each other is seeking - say for LTR, you are at a 4th date buddy and showering naked?? Start slacking up a bit with the game and get a bit real if you want the woman to be emotionally attached to you. You did not clarify if you have had sex with her yet; showering together doesn't mean that directly nor imply such.

If not have sex yet, do it soon so her oxytocin kicks in and then she would become biologically attached to you. Game is for the beginning, become a more real man with being a bit more vulnerable with your emotions for her (though don't ever let her know she has you 100% ever) is what a LTR woman is looking for, not players. Always make sure she knows you are the PRIZE and you have OPTIONS, yet picked her instead for now.... a woman must always need to be a bit uneasy and on the edge with her man in a LTR to constantly affirm that she is making the right decision because most women can't make sh*t with knowing what they want in life.

She will constantly come in contact with other men who will try to orbit her, thus you need to always stand in your control as a man and make it clear in her mind that you are still and always the prize because the constant comparision against other 'aggressors' and men orbiting around her makes it so for all of any woman's life.

With respect,

Exodus
Yeah we are sleeping together. The sex is mind blowing. When I say "game" I really don't mean like I am this emotionless player leading her on. When we are together I am a gentlemen, I make her laugh, we are very physical touching each other back and forth, kissing, I SHOW her I am into her, but I run the show. I am the dominant one, and I make the time, location, details of the date etc.

Because she is 19 in college I figured I should maybe text in between dates to build rapport but based on your responses, why stop whats already working?

We seem to have broken into a new comfort zone since last date, and I have a date tonight with her that she seemed excited to go on.

This sparked into my head because I know all these younger girls love to text, but then again why be like every other beta orbiter..why not be the guy that stands out and doesn't text her in between dates.

Am I onto something here?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Glad to see things are going well with this one!

Just remember this: just because a girl likes something doesn't mean it's something they emotionally respond to well in the course of a dating relationship. For example: girls like getting compliments; however, if you compliment them too much it can start to turn them off.

As you know, I'm of the "texting KILLS relationships" school of thought. That's why I always let girls know in advance - like, on the first date - that I'm not much of a phone person, and that I'd rather see her beautiful face in person or hear her voice via phone call.

With that said, the only time I text a girl is if SHE text me first. At that point, it's kinda rude not to respond. I wait a minimum of 20 minutes to respond to her first text, and I keep the convo short - REAL short, like maybe 2 or 3 lines. Then, I'll send a final message to see if she'll be available later to either talk on the phone or meet up in person.

But yea, the less texting you can do the better. She probably has tons of other dudes texting her all day, but she's dating YOU. Clearly, those other guys' texting strategy ain't workin' - stay with what works, maaaaan!
 
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