"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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"Ghost" in between dates & "texting game."

spiegel549

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This site has been fan ****ing tastic with helping me increase my game from beta ***** to being the Alpha running the show.

I am about to go on my 4th date with this chick, last date I slept over her place, we showered together in the a.m. she made me breakfast etc. It was a big step into a new comfort zone.

Now since she is starting to open up more to me, not being so shy, telling me jokes, not afraid to be herself, I get the urge recently to contact her in between dates.

I have been playing it no joke, like a pro. REALLY playing it with my A+ game and in between dates I have not texted her, and I don't call her unless I am setting up another date.

At this point I know guys that have great "texting game" meaning in between dates they can text a broad and build up some great rapport. Were I suck at texting and really don't like doing it unless I have to. I am all about face to face communication.

I understand how I got her to this point, and I refuse to change my overall game play. This chick is 19 in college, I am 25 and working a full time job. Which is the only reason why I start to think...(do I need to start texting her?) you know how 19 year old broads are with texting lol..

Can it hurt me to just stick to what I have been doing which is keeping "radio silence" in between dates? Especially because so far it has been working out this way excellent.


Thanks men!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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marmel75

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Stick with what is working...if your texting sucks the only thing that will happen are bad things....

You can send a text or two back and forth if she initiates but don't get into long drawn out convo's via text...especially non sexual ones...
 

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Agreed with marmel. And forget this wait an hour in between here texts. I used to do that but I find texting back whenever I'm near my phone is what is best. Could be 5,10 , 20 minutes up to hours depending on what I'm doing. But I noticed this girl I used to do that too used to do the same thing to me. Wait hours to text me back then I started doing what I stated above and she texts back within 1-3 minutes. I think waiting in between means that your not interested in them enough to answer a simple text.
 

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This is going to depend on what her intention and your intention is towards the 'Beyond 4th date' mentality. Are you two looking for a LTR or just FBs??

Depending on what each other is seeking - say for LTR, you are at a 4th date buddy and showering naked?? Start slacking up a bit with the game and get a bit real if you want the woman to be emotionally attached to you. You did not clarify if you have had sex with her yet; showering together doesn't mean that directly nor imply such.

If not have sex yet, do it soon so her oxytocin kicks in and then she would become biologically attached to you. Game is for the beginning, become a more real man with being a bit more vulnerable with your emotions for her (though don't ever let her know she has you 100% ever) is what a LTR woman is looking for, not players. Always make sure she knows you are the PRIZE and you have OPTIONS, yet picked her instead for now.... a woman must always need to be a bit uneasy and on the edge with her man in a LTR to constantly affirm that she is making the right decision because most women can't make sh*t with knowing what they want in life.

She will constantly come in contact with other men who will try to orbit her, thus you need to always stand in your control as a man and make it clear in her mind that you are still and always the prize because the constant comparision against other 'aggressors' and men orbiting around her makes it so for all of any woman's life.

With respect,

Exodus
 

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GotED? said:
This is going to depend on what her intention and your intention is towards the 'Beyond 4th date' mentality. Are you two looking for a LTR or just FBs??

Depending on what each other is seeking - say for LTR, you are at a 4th date buddy and showering naked?? Start slacking up a bit with the game and get a bit real if you want the woman to be emotionally attached to you. You did not clarify if you have had sex with her yet; showering together doesn't mean that directly nor imply such.

If not have sex yet, do it soon so her oxytocin kicks in and then she would become biologically attached to you. Game is for the beginning, become a more real man with being a bit more vulnerable with your emotions for her (though don't ever let her know she has you 100% ever) is what a LTR woman is looking for, not players. Always make sure she knows you are the PRIZE and you have OPTIONS, yet picked her instead for now.... a woman must always need to be a bit uneasy and on the edge with her man in a LTR to constantly affirm that she is making the right decision because most women can't make sh*t with knowing what they want in life.

She will constantly come in contact with other men who will try to orbit her, thus you need to always stand in your control as a man and make it clear in her mind that you are still and always the prize because the constant comparision against other 'aggressors' and men orbiting around her makes it so for all of any woman's life.

With respect,

Exodus
Yeah we are sleeping together. The sex is mind blowing. When I say "game" I really don't mean like I am this emotionless player leading her on. When we are together I am a gentlemen, I make her laugh, we are very physical touching each other back and forth, kissing, I SHOW her I am into her, but I run the show. I am the dominant one, and I make the time, location, details of the date etc.

Because she is 19 in college I figured I should maybe text in between dates to build rapport but based on your responses, why stop whats already working?

We seem to have broken into a new comfort zone since last date, and I have a date tonight with her that she seemed excited to go on.

This sparked into my head because I know all these younger girls love to text, but then again why be like every other beta orbiter..why not be the guy that stands out and doesn't text her in between dates.

Am I onto something here?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Harry Wilmington

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Glad to see things are going well with this one!

Just remember this: just because a girl likes something doesn't mean it's something they emotionally respond to well in the course of a dating relationship. For example: girls like getting compliments; however, if you compliment them too much it can start to turn them off.

As you know, I'm of the "texting KILLS relationships" school of thought. That's why I always let girls know in advance - like, on the first date - that I'm not much of a phone person, and that I'd rather see her beautiful face in person or hear her voice via phone call.

With that said, the only time I text a girl is if SHE text me first. At that point, it's kinda rude not to respond. I wait a minimum of 20 minutes to respond to her first text, and I keep the convo short - REAL short, like maybe 2 or 3 lines. Then, I'll send a final message to see if she'll be available later to either talk on the phone or meet up in person.

But yea, the less texting you can do the better. She probably has tons of other dudes texting her all day, but she's dating YOU. Clearly, those other guys' texting strategy ain't workin' - stay with what works, maaaaan!
 
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