"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Gf wants me to meet guy friend

pipe007

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Hey guys I want mature advice on following scenario... My exclusive gf has this guy friend she has known since the six grade coming to town and she wants to meet up with him for coffe..

She called me to invite me as we'll... She says that the guy wants to meet me as well.... And she wants me there as well .. She says she is taking me into consideration...


I just feel ok it's true they know each other since the six grade... She hasn't seen him in a long time... She told me they have never dated before

So I think it shoul be fine to let her go on her own? I feel I would be like the jealous bf if I go with her? To meet this guy?

What do u guys think?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Why would she explicitly state that she's taking you in consideration? Is she trying to defuse a potential c*ckblock? Doesn't sound good but possibly harmless. Watch their bodylanguage... she could tell you anything. Bodies don't lie.
 

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If she's inviting you it's a good thing. You got into her pants by being a certain way, no reason to change that now. Just go and have coffee and be the cool dude you are. And observe. He may be an orbiter, he may be a beta, he may be an alpha, he may be gay. Not sure what 'taking you into consideration' is about though.
 

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She's lying when she says "he wants to meet you".

Well, she's incorrect. He was the one who was lying when he told her that.

And I agree that it's a good sign she invited you. She wants you there, because she doesn't want to deal with him hitting on her and having to reject him.
 

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She just wants to get you to the meeting to get off from attention from two dudes.

Obviously HE doesn't want to meet you.

she wants YOU there to create a triangle with her at the center...even if HE doesn't want her she can use his presence to plant a seed in your mind (clearly it worked as you're posting this :) ) to get something out of you later and hold the mental upper hand
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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hahaha

come on you guys,

sometimes you are just good friends.

But wait, wrong forum, never mind.
 

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Yeah you're overthinking this. If you have spare time, go talk to the guy. Meeting people from your girl's past is always very useful knowledge.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
She's lying when she says "he wants to meet you". You know thats not true. However, at least she invited you. Just know that she will be loving watching you squirm. Id recommend getting into guy talk with him and ignoring her :)
Nailed!

these are potential minefields for guys, his hands are tied to an extent.
she will be comparing, she will be in the box seat, the above strategy is as near as perfect.
he must be single, his girlfriend would never allow him to meet her, there is danger in this scene
 

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Old friends are usually nothing to worry about. A random new guy friend is a different story. 6th grade friend probably was friend-zoned long ago. I'd let her go alone.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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AgentSmith said:
Old friends are usually nothing to worry about. A random new guy friend is a different story. 6th grade friend probably was friend-zoned long ago. I'd let her go alone.
I think you are wrong, woman at wrk is seeing a guy, bumoed into and old friend last week, they now have a date on saturday, the BF hasnt a clue, doesnt really matter what the background is, a guy only hangs round a girl he wants to f ccuck
 

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Just know one thing, she's seen his d!ck. :D

you can take that to the bank.

if it were me, honestly, i probably wouldnt go, i would just find it boring. id just say, go have a nice time. i dont see why
i should care, if she's a dishonest ho, well then thats what she is, if she is a good girlfriend, then thats
great. either way, her meeting up with an old bud and me going or not going doesnt change either one of those 2 scenerios.
 

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Well she calls me last night... And tells me that she has thought it over and won't meet the guy friend.... She said that she could see how this situation may make me uncomfortable and she tries to see it from my view... I just said that it was an awkward situation for me. And she should be able to make the right decision... So she won't go... I guess I'm ok with that lol
 

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pipe007 said:
Well she calls me last night... And tells me that she has thought it over and won't meet the guy friend.... She said that she could see how this situation may make me uncomfortable and she tries to see it from my view... I just said that it was an awkward situation for me. And she should be able to make the right decision... So she won't go... I guess I'm ok with that lol
she confirmed what i already stated above, she's seen his d!ck, maybe fvcked it, maybe just svcked it. she would never feel funny about it and cancel if that werent the case.
 

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What makes this situation awkward is that she never spoke about him before and they barely talk... So they meeting up for coffee could be seen as their date... Which I'm not ok with.. I never said no to her... I was gonna show up... But inside I didn't like the scenario of giving him my attention
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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By the way the guy is married and has a kid... And she knows ... She has told me she wouldn't do anything to put our relationship in jeopardy... And she knows I'm willing to walk away at distespect
 

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pipe007 said:
By the way the guy is married and has a kid... And she knows ... She has told me she wouldn't do anything to put our relationship in jeopardy... And she knows I'm willing to walk away at distespect
He is looking to fu ck her! she has chickened out, maybe she wa shoping you would kick off and 'force' her into his arms. I am even more suspicious now.
 

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The fact he's been friends with her since 6th grade should be enough to let you know he's harmless. If they're truly "friends", that's great. If he's hanging around her in hopes of getting laid...since 6th grade, he's clearly the biggest AFC on the planet. 6th grade? Who does that?

Hardly anything to worry about.
 

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This is our 2nd month of relationship and she is Extremely invested emotionally and physically in me... I'm not paranoid at this situation... If she wanted something she wouldn't have brought him up ... Or let alone ask me to join them... She said she would feel awkward of the situation was reversed... And decided is best not to go see him
 

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good...!

never be paranoid.

And don't take deep theory (that you see on this site) very seriously either...

As you can see, they are hopelessly off (and insecure) the majority of the time.

Remember, you are the guy with the most information regarding your

situation.

Good luck,
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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