This chick needs to be given the boot. You just caught a glimpse of her demanding self entitled nature and if you are still considered marrying her you might as well rip off your balls and give it to her.
“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
GF gives me ultimatum. I give it right back.
- Thread starter Broham
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Exactly what are you getting out of all of this?Broham said:
Someone Much cooler
Senior Don Juan
i had an ex like this and both back breaker and pen kitten are right. I think that pen kitten is on a better track tho. I don't think she cares so much for marrage as she does freedom. In her mind she wants you to be a man and step up and take so to speak resposibilty. this where the marriage track comes in. Tell her that since yall can afford to move out yet, suggest gettin a hotel? Worth a shot...ps me and this girl ended up breaking up.
penkitten
Master Don Juan
exactlySomeone Much cooler said:
ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
What the hell are you doing living with your parents at 26?!
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
backbreaker
Master Don Juan
read the post and you'd know
ValleyDJing
Master Don Juan
Dude, I will repeat. What the fuk are you doing living with your parents at 26!!!!! Get a fuking job that pays well enough to get your own apartment ASAP!
Kev07
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ValleyDJing said:
Well he is getting a second job soon, that's supposedly when he's going to move out.
Get on it man, even if you don't move out with your girl, move out yourself
Broham
Senior Don Juan
Update: We spent yesterday together and I told her the truth about how much debt I was in. At first she was angry but then she calmed down and was very understanding. We talked about me getting a much higher paying job- and ultimately that's exactly what I have to do, for myself first, and then the relationship.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
BROHAM, you are the living breathing embodiment of exactly why I tell guys never to consider monogamy until they're 28-30. At 26 how much opportunity have you squandered with this girl? You're stil living at home, how much of the reason for this is due to your comfort zone with this girl? You'd like to get a higher paying job and get out? This wwill NEVER happen so long as your entire focus is on the "relationship".
And that's the 800lb. gorilla in the room now isn't it. In all of your posts you refer to the "relationship" as an entity unto itself, not a condition that exists between you and the girl. As if you both owe your devotion and loyalty to the "relationship" like some angry god you'd disappoint if you didn't do all in your power to get along. It's time to stop it with this twisted sense of duty for some idealized coexistence, your head is in fairytalle land, just like a kid still living with mommie reading you bedtime stories.
The truth is you have no relationship, and certainly not one in the sense that you're describing. People in relationships maintain their own identities after having developed them autonomously from their partners. People in relationships have already cut the apron strings and left the nest. I can't think of a worse situation in which to put yourself into than to get into some living arrangement with a 23 y.o. child looking to you as her opportunity to leave home. If you do this and she doesn't mature of her own accord you will be stuck with a perpetual, unruly child who will domineer and blackmail you with her p_ssy for as long as you're together.
You need to reassess where you are in life NOW. You need to NEXT this girl tonight, focus on making yourself more independent, and Spin More Plates while you do so. I was going to write you some big long diatribe about how ultimatums are nothing more than declarations of powerlessness on the part of the one issuing them, but I'm sure you already know how powerless you both are.
And that's the 800lb. gorilla in the room now isn't it. In all of your posts you refer to the "relationship" as an entity unto itself, not a condition that exists between you and the girl. As if you both owe your devotion and loyalty to the "relationship" like some angry god you'd disappoint if you didn't do all in your power to get along. It's time to stop it with this twisted sense of duty for some idealized coexistence, your head is in fairytalle land, just like a kid still living with mommie reading you bedtime stories.
The truth is you have no relationship, and certainly not one in the sense that you're describing. People in relationships maintain their own identities after having developed them autonomously from their partners. People in relationships have already cut the apron strings and left the nest. I can't think of a worse situation in which to put yourself into than to get into some living arrangement with a 23 y.o. child looking to you as her opportunity to leave home. If you do this and she doesn't mature of her own accord you will be stuck with a perpetual, unruly child who will domineer and blackmail you with her p_ssy for as long as you're together.
You need to reassess where you are in life NOW. You need to NEXT this girl tonight, focus on making yourself more independent, and Spin More Plates while you do so. I was going to write you some big long diatribe about how ultimatums are nothing more than declarations of powerlessness on the part of the one issuing them, but I'm sure you already know how powerless you both are.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
How come? People are literally giving their homes away (well, at least substantially under their original asking price) since they've been on the market so long. The only problem is that with all the foreclosures, lenders are wary about providing 100% financing. Outside of that, fixed rates are still below 6.5% so what's the problem?blueguy said:
Broham
Senior Don Juan
Rollo check your PM.
You're right FDA, it is a buyer's market out there right now.
You're right FDA, it is a buyer's market out there right now.
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
That's not very much research. It is a buyer's market because values are overinflated. Historically, home prices increase only about 1 percent over the rate of inflation - about 4 percent per year. That is because housing value is directly tied to income. They aren't good investments. Housing has only been going up recently because people have been borrowing more relative to their income for the past 20 years. But we've fnally hit a bubble. People can't borrow any more. So now, it is still tied to the rate of inflation - but a correction is in order. Historically speaking (past 100 years) real estate has never been a good investment. You tie up your money in something that only returns a rate of 4 percent when historically speaking (past 100 years ) you could have put that same money in the stock market and returned 9 percent. Businesses are living, dynamic investments. Houses are not.
Broham
Senior Don Juan
DJDamage said:
How so? I should've done this months ago. If anything she's doing me a favor giving me a wake up call. Its no one's fault but mine that I'm in the situation I'm in right now. My gf has now chosen to support me and stick with me as I get through this- how is that unhealthy?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Gee, how considerate. A 23 y.o. child living at home giving another child living at home a pass for not having had his sh!t together enough at 26. I'm not sure what concerns me more; you entertaining a monogamous relationship from mom & dad's house or you conceding authority to her after 8 months, and think you owe her some kind of gratitude.Broham said:
I'm busting your chops here to make a point BROHAM; you're already in a trap. You're catering your own personal expectations to what this girl wants you to be. You're identifying with her in order to hold onto your relationship fantasy, and I speak from experience, that path only leads to you being miserable in the long term and her leaving you for a guy who WONT do what she says she wants - she'll cheat on you with the guy who refuses to identify with her in the end.
I can only hold up a mirror my friend, you have to want to look. You knew damn well what the concensus of this forum would be when you started this thread about your problem, but you thought you'd get sympathy and affirmation anyway. You had to know what the response was going to be given your circumstances, just like you know damn well you wont consider or act on any of the advice these guys are giving you. You know why? Because you have a very profound Scarcity Mentality. You don't want to risk losing this girl (most likely because she's the best looking piece of ass you've ever had) and in her excusing your immaturity (which she so graciously does) you get the double whammy knowing that most girls your own age would blow you off after they found you were living at home. So you really have limited yourself to this one girl (of course you have to fukk her on the floor now), but at least you can count on your 'sure thing'.
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Listen to the people on this board, trust me you'll thank them later.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Not necessarily. With an interest only mortgage (hear me out) you can put the money that you would pay into principle into a low load, non-taxable, liquid, interest bearing account (averaging 7-9%) which is less volatile than the stock market and has a guaranteed positive return rate (there's a law that states that it can not have a dividend less than 1% per year).blueguy said:
At the same time you will still be able to lower your earned income by writing off the mortgage interest. With a good mortgage rate, you can be earning 2-3% a year on your mortgage interest. That money could also be rolled into the investment. It may seem confusing but it's not when you really think about it.
The good thing is that this is not a legal loophole, most of the members of Congress use this as a method of retirement savings. It doesn't seem as if many of them contribute to 401ks like "regular folk."
Sorry for the derailment guys. Back to the topic at hand.
“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”
Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.
I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.
Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules. Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.