Girls you date are going to have sex and do kinky stuff way before you come along into the picture. Either accept it for what it is or look for a needle in the haystack virgin that will give it up without wanting marriage first.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
GF admitted some of her past to me. Not good.
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Guys, why do you keep telling him that his attitude is the problem?
If his standard is to get a girlfriend who has not done a threesome or goes totally crazy after she's drunk some alcohol then why tell him otherwise?
I know there are a lot of girls out there who went crazy in their 16-24 BUT, if he doesn't want one of those girls, doesn't this forum exist to help and encourage guys like him to go after what they really want and not settle for anything less, does it?
I never ask exactly for a girls past, but as I already mentioned, sooner or later you and your guts will notice, when theres something wrong and when its time to leave.
I would never stay with a women who had a threesome in her past, rather would I stay single till the day I die then to lower my standard.
If his standard is to get a girlfriend who has not done a threesome or goes totally crazy after she's drunk some alcohol then why tell him otherwise?
I know there are a lot of girls out there who went crazy in their 16-24 BUT, if he doesn't want one of those girls, doesn't this forum exist to help and encourage guys like him to go after what they really want and not settle for anything less, does it?
I never ask exactly for a girls past, but as I already mentioned, sooner or later you and your guts will notice, when theres something wrong and when its time to leave.
I would never stay with a women who had a threesome in her past, rather would I stay single till the day I die then to lower my standard.
Between_The_Lines
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I wouldn't exactly refer to her as skidrow's finest, but that jerking off two d1cks at once story particularly is the one that stands out the most for sure. Pretty damn skanky in my view. She doesn't sound like relationship material.beachwood said:
Aside from the fact that you're going to wonder what else she has buried in her past, one of the main problems now that you've opened up Pandora's Box that I personally would be worried about looking ahead is: "can this girl actually be trusted when I'm not around?" Good luck getting some sleep the night she says she's having a girl's night out. And if you two tiff? I wouldn't put it past her to be the revenge hook up type either.
The two big takeaways that you ought to focus on here are:
-don't ask a girl about her sexual past
-take a deep interest in learning how to read and screen women before elevating them to a level of exclusivity
yea man only reason u is sick is cuz u know bout the sh@t she did fu@kin round before u 2 got hooked up. if she never told u that sh@t u wouldnt be the wiser. case in point dont ask, don't tell bout her past then it wont get to u. if u cant take it use her as a plate an get a new chick.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
Greasy Pig
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Whenever I've done some disgusting shyt with a woman I've always laughed afterwards thinking about how her future husband would react if he ever found out. Now you're living it and it must be hell.
99% of women would have a skeleton in the closet re their sexual past.
Even the most seemingly delicate little flower.
As a rule, I never ask about a chick's history and I always assume I'm going to see her in some porn somewhere.
Low expectations, means no disappointments.
I think your goose is cooked on this one.
You've opened a door that can't be closed.
99% of women would have a skeleton in the closet re their sexual past.
Even the most seemingly delicate little flower.
As a rule, I never ask about a chick's history and I always assume I'm going to see her in some porn somewhere.
Low expectations, means no disappointments.
I think your goose is cooked on this one.
You've opened a door that can't be closed.
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My condolences dude. I honestly feel bad for you. My advice is to just end it. You will never be able to erase the mental imagery caused by her confessions. I've been with my girlfriend for about 18 months and if I found out she has done this kind of stuff -- I would next her. I have no tolerance for bad behavior / stupid decisions -- even if it was in the past.beachwood said:
There is a reason why you can't just walk in off the street to get a mortgage. The bank will weigh your past decisions and choices against the future risk. Essentially your girlfriend has "bad credit" and it unworthy of a "mortgage" (ie: relationship)
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
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It's the truth but like I said "Ignorance is bliss."Peña said:
OP now has confirmation this girl is not worthy of a relationship so he should do the right thing and end it otherwise he will be haunted be her ghosts of d!cking's past
Your question "Let the world convict you of fraud if you admit your past actions? No?" is retarded. Makes no sense
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OP, I know its tough for you to deal with this situation, your brain knows that you can't accept a girl who has slept with so many guys but your feelings and "LOVE" for her is actually putting you in dilemma.
You feel great with her and if she never told you about her past then you would have still be in love with her, maybe you still are but that's not the point here.
The point is what should you do. You can do one of the following.
1. If you love or like her then try ignoring her past and act as if nothing happened because you can't change her past.
2. Start detaching yourself from her by going NO CONTACT but tell her that its better if we stop seeing/talking to each other.
3. Stay with her while simultaneously improving yourself/detaching yourself/having sex with her. Because if she is anything like you mentioned above then she won't stay in a relationship for more than 2 months. Enjoy the physical pleasures for the time being.
4. Dump her, Start improving yourself and get better with everything like money, looks, your frame. To get a better girl in future.
The choice is yours.
You feel great with her and if she never told you about her past then you would have still be in love with her, maybe you still are but that's not the point here.
The point is what should you do. You can do one of the following.
1. If you love or like her then try ignoring her past and act as if nothing happened because you can't change her past.
2. Start detaching yourself from her by going NO CONTACT but tell her that its better if we stop seeing/talking to each other.
3. Stay with her while simultaneously improving yourself/detaching yourself/having sex with her. Because if she is anything like you mentioned above then she won't stay in a relationship for more than 2 months. Enjoy the physical pleasures for the time being.
4. Dump her, Start improving yourself and get better with everything like money, looks, your frame. To get a better girl in future.
The choice is yours.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Don't we all want date a freak between the sheets? You are not her first. Decide if you want to be her last. Decide if you think you'll be her last. If you can't handle her past, move on. You should have never asked about sexual history if you weren't prepared for the worst.
A threesome when she was 19 or 20 shouldn't hold much water when she is 28. The recent drunk makeout would be more of a concern. Although if you broke up with her over being clingy, you basically told her to go find another man. I doubt you would have told her if you had a makeout session during your breakout either.
I would gauge it more on what she has done while the two of you were actually a couple. Or if she tried to lie after you found out about the makeout session. To me, her denying the makeout would be a much bigger red flag than anything else.
A threesome when she was 19 or 20 shouldn't hold much water when she is 28. The recent drunk makeout would be more of a concern. Although if you broke up with her over being clingy, you basically told her to go find another man. I doubt you would have told her if you had a makeout session during your breakout either.
I would gauge it more on what she has done while the two of you were actually a couple. Or if she tried to lie after you found out about the makeout session. To me, her denying the makeout would be a much bigger red flag than anything else.
Comments in this thread are very entertaining.
It would be weird if they didn't have sex. Do you think women never had sex with their ex boyfriends before? :crackup:beachwood said:
Don't alphas do that to women after a bang?beachwood said:
She isn't allowed to date men before you? I think you're making way too much of a big deal over this. Good luck finding a hot girl today who hasn't made out or had sex before. A lot of betas can't handle that for some reason.beachwood said:
This.soden said:
1. Dont ask about a girl's past and dont allow her to tell you about it if you cannot handle it.
2. Dont commit to a woman whom you cannot accept for who she really is. If you want a more conservative gf, go find one, but accept the reality that every woman has a sexual past...and that many will not even be honest about those pasts.
foreverAFC
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she sounds like a good time, enjoy banging her but just dont get her pregnant or marry her
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vM5dAxVsugwDanger said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zn5ci099cFc
You mad? He's already been committed to her for 6 months. Can't you handle women's past relationships? Can't handle an honest woman? Total clown you are pal, nobody is sex starved committing to a h0r lolz. Her sex is the normal sex most women have with their past boyfriends.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.