"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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getting to know eachother//met her online.....

noirsake

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I had a online dating profile and I only put a paragraph or two of stuff on it, but I got a response (I guess it was a pretty damn good paragraph). She asked if i wanted to chat sometime and i replied, "do you have msn messenger?" she says "no, but i would rather talk to you on the phone to get to know you better" im like damn that was easy.
my point
im gonna reply "ya, its good to know you like communicating like a normal person. whats your #?" assuming shes gonna give it to me, what the hell do I talk about when i call her to "get to know each other better"? Ive never been the best conversationalist on the phone and help of any sort would be AWESOME!!!

I know i need to use c&f and I have that handled, I just don't know what to say to "get to know each other better"
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Shocker

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I hate talking on the phone, so I would just use it to set up a meet somewhere public, so she doesn't feel intimidated. You can get to know each other then. Phone is better than online, but in person is better than phone.
 

Axcell

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Get the hell off the computer, get her on the phone as SOON as you can.
Say something such as this, "Hey.. I was thinking, how about I take you to a nice place sometime next week, I'm going to need your # for that though.. so we can finally talk like NORMAL people."
 

Dark Chivalry

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Ask her out and have fun in person.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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aussiegoat55

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noirsake said:
I had a online dating profile and I only put a paragraph or two of stuff on it, but I got a response (I guess it was a pretty damn good paragraph). She asked if i wanted to chat sometime and i replied, "do you have msn messenger?" she says "no, but i would rather talk to you on the phone to get to know you better" im like damn that was easy.
my point
im gonna reply "ya, its good to know you like communicating like a normal person. whats your #?" assuming shes gonna give it to me, what the hell do I talk about when i call her to "get to know each other better"? Ive never been the best conversationalist on the phone and help of any sort would be AWESOME!!!

I know i need to use c&f and I have that handled, I just don't know what to say to "get to know each other better"
I would use the phone to set up a date, then get to know her in person. The Shocker put it well.
 
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