"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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getting to know eachother//met her online.....

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I had a online dating profile and I only put a paragraph or two of stuff on it, but I got a response (I guess it was a pretty damn good paragraph). She asked if i wanted to chat sometime and i replied, "do you have msn messenger?" she says "no, but i would rather talk to you on the phone to get to know you better" im like damn that was easy.
my point
im gonna reply "ya, its good to know you like communicating like a normal person. whats your #?" assuming shes gonna give it to me, what the hell do I talk about when i call her to "get to know each other better"? Ive never been the best conversationalist on the phone and help of any sort would be AWESOME!!!

I know i need to use c&f and I have that handled, I just don't know what to say to "get to know each other better"
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I hate talking on the phone, so I would just use it to set up a meet somewhere public, so she doesn't feel intimidated. You can get to know each other then. Phone is better than online, but in person is better than phone.
 
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Get the hell off the computer, get her on the phone as SOON as you can.
Say something such as this, "Hey.. I was thinking, how about I take you to a nice place sometime next week, I'm going to need your # for that though.. so we can finally talk like NORMAL people."
 
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Ask her out and have fun in person.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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noirsake said:
I had a online dating profile and I only put a paragraph or two of stuff on it, but I got a response (I guess it was a pretty damn good paragraph). She asked if i wanted to chat sometime and i replied, "do you have msn messenger?" she says "no, but i would rather talk to you on the phone to get to know you better" im like damn that was easy.
my point
im gonna reply "ya, its good to know you like communicating like a normal person. whats your #?" assuming shes gonna give it to me, what the hell do I talk about when i call her to "get to know each other better"? Ive never been the best conversationalist on the phone and help of any sort would be AWESOME!!!

I know i need to use c&f and I have that handled, I just don't know what to say to "get to know each other better"
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I would use the phone to set up a date, then get to know her in person. The Shocker put it well.
 
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