There are numerious times where after a girl stays late at my apartment, she ends up leaving for the night, and I have no idea how to transition between her being over to her staying over for the night. Have aany advice/suggestions bout how I can get a girl to stay for the night at my place without sounding needy or desperate or anti-challenge?
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Getting the girl to stay over
- Thread starter Jababa
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
josekortez
Don Juan
I've been trying to figure this one out myself. It's a pain paying all this rent at my place and then not getting some shine up in there.
With the few that have come over, we end up watching a DVD and then they get too comfortable. I think they have too much time to think about it.
I need to post a placard over the door that says, "No Shine, No Quality Time!"
With the few that have come over, we end up watching a DVD and then they get too comfortable. I think they have too much time to think about it.
I need to post a placard over the door that says, "No Shine, No Quality Time!"
undesputable
Master Don Juan
why do you want her to stay over? to **** her right? if everything is going good you got to grab your balls and make a bold move, move in for a kiss and everything should roll from there. unless shes a ***** shes not going to throw yourself at you or ask you "hey can i spend the night 
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"themanwithnoname
Senior Don Juan
how about asking?
coolguy676767
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Sex is the transition, she will know what you want if you ask her to spend the night, they are not that ignorant/stupid, so you have to grab your balls, and just start making moves that are of the DJ nature.
"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
DJohnson
Don Juan
There are two good ways to make sure she stays over, better if done at the same time.
1. Build conmfort
2. Make her horny
You can build comfort with rapport and humor.
As far as making her horny, mild c+F can work, as well as kino while on the couch, progress this upwards.
You may ask, how to progress into kino and such. Well I rarely invite women into my apartment unless they know intuitively that I am sexually interested. If she comes in my apartment, kissing and kino are NO problem, because the sub text of our interaction is such that this is a requirement for hanging out with me in my apartment. If it backfires, oh well, I screwed up, you might want to leave, and I forget about this girl until she calls me back. In the meantime I am gaming other girls.
1. Build conmfort
2. Make her horny
You can build comfort with rapport and humor.
As far as making her horny, mild c+F can work, as well as kino while on the couch, progress this upwards.
You may ask, how to progress into kino and such. Well I rarely invite women into my apartment unless they know intuitively that I am sexually interested. If she comes in my apartment, kissing and kino are NO problem, because the sub text of our interaction is such that this is a requirement for hanging out with me in my apartment. If it backfires, oh well, I screwed up, you might want to leave, and I forget about this girl until she calls me back. In the meantime I am gaming other girls.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
They've got to have a reason to stay over. No offence but sounds as uf they are bored and end up leaving. Make it interesting enough for them to want to stay.
Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
That's something that's interesting enought to make them want to stay. It works for me!