"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Getting the date set

Konada

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Occasionally I encounter the flaky bs and wonder how I can play this out, these girls are from tinder

<After exchanging 2 messages>
Me: I'm not much into the back and forth texting or pen-pal thing. I'd like to meet you for a coffee one night this week and get to know each other better. Let me know if that sounds good to you. =)

HB: HAHAHA that sounds lovely! :)
Me: Perfect, what nights are you free this week?
HB: Sorry I fell asleep! I'm not sure my schedule is in a mess right now :/ (It was pretty late at night)

Pretty sure walking away won't help when her investment is so low and its tinder where the bigger better deal is just a next swipe away.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Occasionally I encounter the flaky bs and wonder how I can play this out, these girls are from tinder

<After exchanging 2 messages>
Me: I'm not much into the back and forth texting or pen-pal thing. I'd like to meet you for a coffee one night this week and get to know each other better. Let me know if that sounds good to you. =)

HB: HAHAHA that sounds lovely! :)
Me: Perfect, what nights are you free this week?
HB: Sorry I fell asleep! I'm not sure my schedule is in a mess right now :/ (It was pretty late at night)

Pretty sure walking away won't help when her investment is so low and its tinder where the bigger better deal is just a next swipe away.
Chasing won't help either.

Tell her to let you know when she's free to get together and wait.

But don't wait. Find other women.
 

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When she stated "sounds lovely," you go with:

Sounds like a plan Missy (or Sounds good). Give me your number and I will text/call you to make arrangements =) Konada
Hard to recover. Try:

How dare you fall asleep on me! =) I'm not on here much, so let's take our convo offline. Give me your number and I will text/call you sometime. Konada
If no reciprocation, it's too great an investment. On to the next one.
 

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Well she made my job easy for me, went to dance practice and she unmatched me when I didn't reply for a few hours.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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