"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Getting #'s is not hard keeping attention is

Chosen1

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I'm not a big player actually I've only been with 2 women my whole life. But I have had lot and lots and lots of girls #'s. It's really easy as everyone says you just act like your pretty much god's gift to women and tell them "I need to get to know you better", or "I don't know when I will see you again" etc that is the easy part. I can not keep these hoes attention for the life of me. The only way I can think of is taking away attention but that's getting old. Let's discuss this problem of mine.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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PapiChulo

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It is a good observation there.

me thinks it has to do with unpredictability, mystery, and sex. How to do all this with the woman you just met I still have no idea.
 

joe henny

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Getting numbers? A number is nothing what so ever. I stopped counting the number of numbers I can get along time ago. The number is just the beginning. I have a number for every letter of the alphabet a girls name could begin with, but I'm only proud of the numbers of the ones I goose
 

Thundernuts

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Yeah same here, numbers aren't even half the battle like they are made out to be. It's keeping them interested thats half the battle. Getting a number is a good start though. You act cool and collect, you want her number because you have something else to do. Thats it, all your dealings with the girl are as easy as getting her number if you do it right, always leave her wanting more, don't make time to give her everything. Once she has you figured out, the game is up, your married.

Its as easy as flipping a light switch.
 

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I disagree about numbers being nothing. while they may come easily, i'd like to believe that it's a green light. that's if the number is legit of course. Basically it means the interaction was good enough that she felt comfortable giving you her digits. If you creeped her out or were acting a little suspicious, she would of gave you an excuse and not have given you her number.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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I almost always get a phone number, and it's almost always legit. She'll only avoid giving it to you if you're creepy, annoying, or if she's just really private (this is rare).

Getting it is only one part, though. She can just not answer you back, and most guys take the hint pretty quickly.
 

PapiChulo

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fuk them numbers, I am trying to build something right at the spot now-sorta like insta-date in a way. Thats when the number actually represents something, when you know you made her feel something.
 

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Follow up on all the girls you get numbers from, every single one. It's a numbers game in itself, your chance of success may not be that high but the more you follow up, the more you'll close.

Even if she gives you her number, it doesn't mean you've built enough attraction between the two of you. Try building more rapport and attraction when you first meet her even after you get her number, at least enough for her to remember you when you call her. If she remembers you, and remembers the attraction she felt for you, she'll follow up when you call her back.
 

joe henny

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BongDuy said:
I disagree about numbers being nothing. while they may come easily, i'd like to believe that it's a green light. that's if the number is legit of course. Basically it means the interaction was good enough that she felt comfortable giving you her digits. If you creeped her out or were acting a little suspicious, she would of gave you an excuse and not have given you her number.
This is why I disagree. Their are different reasons girls give numbers besides attraction.
1. I see this all the time they feel bad about rejecting you. Contrary to popular opinion on this site all women are not evil and out to hurt you their are some genuine nice ones out there.

2. The easiest way to get rid of you

3. The worst ones. The ones who know as soon as they give it out they're gonna ignore your calls

Getting the number is a good start though but don't over glorify something so common that happens everyday remember the rest of the work is now determined by how you make her feel about you homie.

The key is: "Tell her any thing she needs to hear to get her to give you what you want"
 

Mantis Toboggan

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joe henny said:
This is why I disagree. Their are different reasons girls give numbers besides attraction.
1. I see this all the time they feel bad about rejecting you. Contrary to popular opinion on this site all women are not evil and out to hurt you their are some genuine nice ones out there.

2. The easiest way to get rid of you

3. The worst ones. The ones who know as soon as they give it out they're gonna ignore your calls

Getting the number is a good start though but don't over glorify something so common that happens everyday remember the rest of the work is now determined by how you make her feel about you homie.

The key is: "Tell her any thing she needs to hear to get her to give you what you want"
I agree with your posts in this thread, player.

Getting a number isn't even half the battle. I've had nights where I have a girl's complete, attention...she's laughing at my jokes, I get her number and when I call, she doesn't respond. Who knows why. And who cares.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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