You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
I was VERY active in the bar/club scene from 27 to 34. Then, I started to taper it off. I would go out one a month or so until 37. Now, I'm a hermit who hides at home except for work, dance classes, and vacations. I don't really bother with women much at all anymore except on a professional or classroom sort of level.skinnyguy said:This is for guys 30+.
When did you stop going out to bars/clubs, and do you miss it?
I am not going out that much anymore and I feel like I am not missing anything. The club scene is pretty vapid.
That's the better way to go by far (for me its salsa). I keep kicking myself for wasting all those yrs in the "club scene" instead of learning proper dancing and meeting more sensible (slightly, lol) women that way.Mike32ct said:So, I just do formal dancing at the ballroom studio and some local dance events. Of course I sometimes miss the grinding and makeouts from the club lol, but it is what it is.
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
It's not that they are better women per se. It's that you aren't meeting them in under the influence of alcohol in a dark, loud club when they have their bish shields up. It's the venue that ruins it.yyc12 said:That's the better way to go by far (for me its salsa). I keep kicking myself for wasting all those yrs in the "club scene" instead of learning proper dancing and meeting more sensible (slightly, lol) women that way.
Mike32ct said:I was VERY active in the bar/club scene from 27 to 34. Then, I started to taper it off. I would go out one a month or so until 37. Now, I'm a hermit who hides at home except for work, dance classes, and vacations. I don't really bother with women much at all anymore except on a professional or classroom sort of level.
The number one reason I left the bar/club scene was fear of continued long term hearing damage. These places are just too damn loud. I still love club music even as an older guy, but I listen to it at home. Even bars with music are really loud. The theory is it sells more drinks. Workplaces have noise regulations to protect hearing. But somehow bars, clubs, and concerts do not. But that's another topic...
I also got sick of the AWing and cliquey social circle groups that stay together and don't talk to anyone else.
I love to dance and have gotten MUCH better at it in recent years with some training, but I'm sick of seeing women dance together in groups instead of with men. I have some cool moves now, but a bar/club lady wouldn't give me the right time of day anymore so I can't use them there. A hot guy who sways from left to right >>>> an average looking guy with cool moves in the bar/club scene.
So, I just do formal dancing at the ballroom studio and some local dance events. Of course I sometimes miss the grinding and makeouts from the club lol, but it is what it is.
Lol.El Suave said:A good woman would be at home learning how to cook, clean, educate herself in how to raise kids and so on.
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
where else do I go lolbackbreaker said:I stopped going to clubs when i realized it was a rip off lol.
it's gaming for the lazy man. think about it. if you locked yourself in a room with a notepad for 3 hours you could come up with 20-30 better places to game women, easily. clubs are for guys who put no original thought into their game.
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.