"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Getting a group together

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Has anyone ever had to build a network of friends -- like particularly male buddies u can roll with -- from scratch?

I used to have a real good team, then it kinda fell apart, particularly after college. I work in the city and get around a lot, but it seems difficult to actually get together a group from scratch that you can fit well with?

Anyone got some *REAL* experiences to share? Should I just be going it alone for now? I really feel I need some group to hang out with.

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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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I'm exactly where you are right now. I'm way too different than everyone else to have mindless chatter and say things just to fit in.
 

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reallyfreakinlost said:
I'm exactly where you are right now. I'm way too different than everyone else to have mindless chatter and say things just to fit in.
Man sorry 2 say it, but thats *exactly* why ur so fuked up lmao

seriously man if you dont have SOME KIND of crew, your gonna have trouble building status & respect wherever your from!!

Now are there REAL MEN HERE or just fuking emos???
 
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AtomicDog said:
Man sorry 2 say it, but thats *exactly* why ur so fuked up lmao

seriously man if you dont have SOME KIND of crew, your gonna have trouble building status & respect wherever your from!!

Now are there REAL MEN HERE or just fuking emos???
Ok so you're saying if somebody moves into a new city with a new job, and has no friends, (or as you like to call them, crew), then they can't start just from scratch?
 
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AtomicDog said:
Has anyone ever had to build a network of friends -- like particularly male buddies u can roll with -- from scratch?

I used to have a real good team, then it kinda fell apart, particularly after college. I work in the city and get around a lot, but it seems difficult to actually get together a group from scratch that you can fit well with?

Anyone got some *REAL* experiences to share? Should I just be going it alone for now? I really feel I need some group to hang out with.

Cheers,
@tomic
Ok Atomic Dog Sh*t... Let me break this down for you... you're calling me f*cked up but you have the exact same problem, are you stupid or what? By the way, you're 19 and you're out of college? Do you quit your friends, school and everything else that easy? no wonder you can't get laid you loser
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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reallyfreakinlost said:
Ok Atomic Dog Sh*t... Let me break this down for you... you're calling me f*cked up but you have the exact same problem, are you stupid or what? By the way, you're 19 and you're out of college? Do you quit your friends, school and everything else that easy? no wonder you can't get laid you loser
Look sorry man I offended without really meaning to

Im just saying -- u seemed to be putting down being with a group -- what kind of response is that to this post??
 
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AtomicDog said:
Look sorry man I offended without really meaning to

Im just saying -- u seemed to be putting down being with a group -- what kind of response is that to this post??
The only thing I was putting down was myself... I was criticizing myself for being too different and not saying stupid sh*t to fit in, I'm not against being in a group, I just got pissed off because I admitted some of my faults, and then you go on and diss me for admitting that stuff... so next time you really shouldn't jump to conclusions that quickly
 
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