"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Gettin with someone at a party

Westwind

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Ok i was at a party realky hammered but i was afraid to approach a really hot chick because she was with a crowd. I kept trying to get my friends to come with me but they wouldn't, so i got scared.


How do you get over that fear and make a move?

Please give me some tips, i really need them.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Westwind

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The Sperminator said:
You were hammered but still afraid. Damn nothing to help you then.

I would have to disagree with you, i can be helped. But only by myself. I have to get more comfortable around women, dancing ,and groups of women. It's never too late.
 

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She wasn't alone? In a set. You'd need to open the set or else catch her alone.
 

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Pay attention to the other chicks first. Make them laugh. Puts her at ease as she is off the hot seat. Make it clear later on she is the one you are interested in with eye contact. She'll get the message.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Rex Man

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I'd suggest waiting till she was alone to reduce the # of factors. Your game could be top-notch but one girl could completely throw a monkey wrench in your program. If you MUST,MUST,MUST approach a group, get a decent wingman. Tell your friend to stop being a bunch of pvssies, it's 2007 and that's not acceptable. :nono:
 

Play the Game

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Too bad you can't just club her and take her back to your cave, like in the good ol' days. :trouble:

Life was so simple back then.
 

Westwind

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Thanks that stuff is helpful except the last one , that's funny.
 

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Two main pieces of advice for you:

1) Desensitization therapy -- You have to expose yourself to anxiety in order to reduce it. Just go for it!
2) Your mindset is probably in error. You're still trying to please the woman instead of just having fun and being a man. In reality, you don't know anything about this girl yet. She could be a b1tch or a total hor; would you still worship her even then? Just go get to know her, be direct, and don't wuss around or let yourself get used.

And remember, everyone makes mistakes! You're still learning, and perfect is boring anyway.
 
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