"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Gene Simmons from KISS gives his view on seducing women and having relationships...

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Guys, I've just seen an interview on YouTube with Gene Simmons from the rock band KISS. He gives his thoughts on seducing women and everything he says is in line with the seduction community. He claims to have had sex with 4600 women too.

He is a natural alpha male. Look at his body language, frame control, his outspoken attitude about seducing women, and watch the way he gets amazing positive reactions from people.

Here's the link to the video if you want to watch it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgwFDFpfKEM
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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I wouldn't go so far and call him an ALPHA. Did you not hear him when he said something like, "When you see a beautiful woman, you need to go up to her and kiss her hand"? Such an AFC thing to do. It obviously puts the woman on a pedestal and chips away at you as the prize.

On another note, I think gene Simmons is a Poser. Nothing against dressing a certain way, but the guy doesn't even look like a "Rocker"(not that his previous image was any better..I've actually always thought KISS had a cheesy image). If you're fronting a Hard-Rock band, at least look the part. Reminds me of guys I audition for a Metal band who look like they just came off of Wall St.
 

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edger said:
On another note, I think gene Simmons is a Poser. Nothing against dressing a certain way, but the guy doesn't even look like a "Rocker"(not that his previous image was any better..I've actually always thought KISS had a cheesy image). If you're fronting a Hard-Rock band, at least look the part. Reminds me of guys I audition for a Metal band who look like they just came off of Wall St.
How are old retired jewish rockers suppose to dress? :D He's a business man now, not a rocker. His goal is to make as much money as possible to support his family, his women and his lifestyle. Can't walk around in leather and chains at 40+ he would look like a clown.
 

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edger said:
I wouldn't go so far and call him an ALPHA. Did you not hear him when he said something like, "When you see a beautiful woman, you need to go up to her and kiss her hand"? Such an AFC thing to do. It obviously puts the woman on a pedestal and chips away at you as the prize.
Dude, you're getting too caught up in 'it's afc to do this, afc to do that' type thinking.

If an afc kisses a girl's hand, it's afc. If an alpha male kisses a girl's hand, it's alpha. Remember, it's not what you DO, but who you ARE.
 

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You're all thinking so negatively and you just can't face the fact that someone is so alpha and successful with women.

Gene could almost be a PU guru with his insights and understanding of women.

You're all bitter because he's famous and has a lot of money, but put that aside and learn from his opinions, his body language and his mindset.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Guitar_Whizz said:
You're all thinking so negatively and you just can't face the fact that someone is so alpha and successful with women.

Gene could almost be a PU guru with his insights and understanding of women.

You're all bitter because he's famous and has a lot of money, but put that aside and learn from his opinions, his body language and his mindset.
This whole thing was done a few months ago. You are horribly disillusioned if you think that Gene Simmons is anything near the lady’s man he claims to be. His whole career has been built around convincing others that he and his band had any sort of talent, other than self promotion. Same thing with his claims of 4600 women.

You think he has body language, you don’t know body language. No where do any of the women show anything resembling sexual attraction. I agree with edger, Simmons’ line "When you see a beautiful woman, you need to go up to her and kiss her hand" is not only AFC it is just plain gay. I have never met a guy who was good with women who talked like that. Everyone who did talk like that was the type that ended up with skanks. Have you ever seen Gene Simmons with a really hot chick?

All Gene Simmons knows about women is that there is a segment of the female population that gets a kick out of sexual encounters with rock stars, even ones that aren’t that good. During my college years I played in a band that played parties, bars, and an occasional opening for a known band. Always there were girls around eager to party with the boys in the band.

His opinions, his body language, his attitude, all hogwash.
 

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For once I agree with you, tater tot :yes:
 

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Guitar_Whizz said:
Dude, you're getting too caught up in 'it's afc to do this, afc to do that' type thinking.

If an afc kisses a girl's hand, it's afc. If an alpha male kisses a girl's hand, it's alpha. Remember, it's not what you DO, but who you ARE.
Your ACTIONS and the way you behave are what determine whether you're an AFC or not.

A DJ/Player would not do what Gene Simmons did that I pointed out. It's pedestalizing her and taking away from your "prize" value.
 

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Gene does have that confidence and initiative that helps when going after women, but you have to also remember that his wealth and status play a huge role in his success. It will also color his perception because he's doing what he feels "works", and it does..........for him.
 

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Warrior74 said:
Can't walk around in leather and chains at 40+ he would look like a clown.
I've gotten into this conversation one too many times on here, but when I see responses like this, I feel the need to defend it. I don't see guys at 40+ who wear leather and chains as looking like clowns. Styles don't belong to an age number. Remember that.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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It's about personal choices. Most rock stars could have 4600 women by the time they are done. Most don't do that. Most get married and at least try to settle down. The better question what is it about GS that makes him want 4600 different women, and ALL the risks that entails? I see excessive womanizing as a personal weakness in his makeup and not a strength. Robert Fripp once commented that in the beginning Groupies are a Godsend but quickly devolve into becoming intrusive, a BURDEN, and a waste of time.
 
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Robert Fripp once commented that in the beginning Groupies are a Godsend but quickly devolve into becoming intrusive, a BURDEN, and a waste of time.
It is VERY, VERY, VERY hard to believe that f*cking HOT women would EVER become intrusive, burdensome, and a waste of time. Very, very hard to believe.

These guys need to struggle with women a bit, then maybe they'll appreciate what they have. People go as far as RAPE to get laid, and put themselves in a position where they risk going to jail(and I'm not condoning rape by the way, I'm just making a point), and this guy complains that he's getting too much women.

Stupid statement on Robert Fripp's behalf.
 

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Get a grip, edger. A man can get played out after a certain point. It can happen with anything. Groupies are a nightmare in a lot of ways.
 

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edger said:
These guys need to struggle with women a bit, then maybe they'll appreciate what they have. People go as far as RAPE to get laid, and put themselves in a position where they risk going to jail(and I'm not condoning rape by the way, I'm just making a point), and this guy complains that he's getting too much women.
Grow up man.

Rape is not about "getting laid" . Rape is to exercise power over the victim.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Latinoman said:
Grow up man.

Rape is not about "getting laid" . Rape is to exercise power over the victim.
You're a funny guy. You think you know a lot of things. Yes, some also rape to excercise power over the victim. But you're 100% wrong on rape not being motivated by sexual frustration for some as well.
 

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edger said:
You're a funny guy. You think you know a lot of things. Yes, some also rape to excercise power over the victim. But you're 100% wrong on rape not being motivated by sexual frustration for some as well.
Are you a doctor? Nope. You are this long haired dude that dress like some 1980 Bon Jovi wanna be.

All I am saying is do not write about what you have no clue.
 

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Latinoman said:
Are you a doctor? Nope. You are this long haired dude that dress like some 1980 Bon Jovi wanna be.

All I am saying is do not write about what you have no clue.
I told you you were a funny guy.

Anyhow, I'm not a doctor, but I studied Sociology in college. And where do you get your claims?

Bon Jovi? You're "off" again, even after I showed a YouTube video of what I look like. My wardrobe, the tunes I compose, and music I listen to, is the polar opposite to Bon Jovi. Only thing I have in common with Mr. Jovi is the hair(minus the "bangs" and aerosol spray poof..and my hair is much longer), that's about it.
 

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Are you sure you are 28? You don't sound 28. You sound 22 or younger.
 

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edger said:
It is VERY, VERY, VERY hard to believe that f*cking HOT women would EVER become intrusive, burdensome, and a waste of time. Very, very hard to believe.

These guys need to struggle with women a bit, then maybe they'll appreciate what they have. People go as far as RAPE to get laid, and put themselves in a position where they risk going to jail(and I'm not condoning rape by the way, I'm just making a point), and this guy complains that he's getting too much women.

Stupid statement on Robert Fripp's behalf.

No it was extremely insightful and enlightened. He saw it for what it was (not much) and quickly moved to more productive and fulfilling activities. Ask yourself why they all eventually settle down, yes EVEN Gene Simmons FINALLY figured this out.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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