"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Gene Simmons from KISS gives his view on seducing women and having relationships...

Mr. Me

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You're all thinking so negatively and you just can't face the fact that someone is so alpha and successful with women.
Actually, the fact is I see many on this forum toss kudos to others who they think are successful with women. It just so happens that the ones posting here don't believe Simmons is that kind of guy, so they're not giving him those kudos. You happen to disagree with that mass opinion, as they disagree with yours - so it's really YOU who "can't face the fact" that this is the case, rather than projecting that it's about these other guys and what they can't face about this one person.

By your repeated defending of your narrow view, you send this signal that you think everyone should think like you do. That only you are correct and everyone is wrong and they have a problem. Maybe the problem is you.

That IS what you're saying when you say we're all negative and that it's US who can't face the fact and that we're ALL bitter. Why can't you accept that we have a different opinion? Does it make you feel insecure that others think you're incorrect? Maybe you're not confident in your opinion so you need to put down other people holding a different opinion and reason that they're bitter or negative in order to make yourself feel right about your view? Maybe you like the security of clinging to your views no matter what? Maybe you're like some control freak and like a typical control freak can't live with that others have different views. I don't know. But that's how you come across to me.

You're all bitter because he's famous and has a lot of money, but put that aside and learn from his opinions, his body language and his mindset.
Right, we're all bitter. That must be it. We all have something personal against Simmons. Sure! That sounds reasonable.

Actually, it's more like we're all factoring in that he has celebrity and status via money and that no doubt plays a part in his history with women.

Simmon's body language? You mean, for instance, the way he's standing there with his hands cupped over his groin? Yes, very manly. Makes it look like he's wanting to go pee. Honestly, I've seen gay male models who know how to stand in a more masculine pose.

Hey look... the ONLY reason he was on that show was BECAUSE of his celebrity status AND because had a current reality show on at the time to hawk, NOT because he charmed his way in or even because of his former career with KISS.

Well, okay, look... to be even fairer than I already am, I'll tell you what. I'll try out his publicized technique, you know, how you say he's "so alpha and successful with women" by passing a note to a HB saying "Do you want to get together??" and let's see how well that works. Actually, I don't even think I ever did that even in high school. But anyway, hopefully, it'll work better then when Simmons tried it and she turned him down.

You might be better served finding more realistic, viable role models than him.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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thedeparted said:
A man can get played out after a certain point. It can happen with anything. Groupies are a nightmare in a lot of ways.
Of course man. It's obvious, as things get "played out" in a lot of other areas of life as well. But what I was trying to say about it, was, to call it "burdensome, obtrusive, and a waste of time", is going too far. I wouldn't have used that kind of termonology to describe how groupies can get played out after a while.
 

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A famous rockstar can behave like a DJ, an AFC, an axe murderer, a footballer, a businessman......he will still get laid however he behaves because famous people make women feel more important
 
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