Gangbang teacher says "she's the victim"

[Burroughs]

typical

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuxcrGEhkA4

 

[betheman]

her views, lack of any remorse or guilt, is an extreme version of the female psyche when brought to account for wrongdoing. this is almost, akin to watching and listening to a psychopath at work

 

[Die Hard]

Seriously, you guys need to get your brains checked...

Yes, she wanted to have sex with the dudes, but she didn't want the whole school to know about it. First of all, it's quite embarassing for a teacher when all of the school's students see a video of the teacher having sex (regardless with whom the teacher is having sex).
Secondly, when the videotape is shown to all the students, you can bet your ass that it will end up with the school's administration, resulting in the teacher losing the job, or even worse, get jailed.

So obviously the dudes really fvcked her over by showing the videotape around, this is clear to see for anyone with half a braincell. I'm pretty sure any of you would feel victimized after being publicly embarassed, losing your job and getting jailed for 5 years!! Her whole life was basically destroyed and still people think she has no right to feel victimized???

So yeah, fvck you and your dumb ass. We all know that women are all too eager to play the victim card and I hate that sh!t just as much as any other guy on here, but that's not the case here and you are simply projecting your prejudice on this case. It's plain out stupidity (but that's what I've come to expect from you, Burroughs...)


But you're being just as dumb, betheman. Why the hell do you believe that this chick should feel remorse or guilt, and why do you label her act as "wrongdoing"?
She let four students gangbang her, which was an AWESOME experience for the dudes! How in the hell do you label that a "wrongdoing"??? It's the exact opposite, it is a GOOD DEED which the guys ENJOYED!


People are making little sense on these boards, nowadays...

 

[betheman]

Seriously, you guys need to get your brains checked...

Yes, she wanted to have sex with the dudes, but she didn't want the whole school to know about it. First of all, it's quite embarassing for a teacher when all of the school's students see a video of the teacher having sex (regardless with whom the teacher is having sex).
Secondly, when the videotape is shown to all the students, you can bet your ass that it will end up with the school's administration, resulting in the teacher losing the job, or even worse, get jailed.

So obviously the dudes really fvcked her over by showing the videotape around, this is clear to see for anyone with half a braincell. I'm pretty sure any of you would feel victimized after being publicly embarassed, losing your job and getting jailed for 5 years!!

So yeah, fvck you and your dumb asses. We all know that women are all too eager to play the victim card, but in this case it's legit and you are simply projecting your prejudice on this case. Plain out stupidity, but that's what I've come to expect from you, Burroughs...


But you're being just as dumb, betheman. Why the hell do you believe that this chick should feel remorse or guilt, and why do you label her act as "wrongdoing"?
She let four students gangbang her, which was an AWESOME experience for the dudes! How in the hell do you label that a "wrongdoing"??? It's the exact opposite, it is a GOOD DEED which the guys ENJOYED!


People are making little sense on these boards, nowadays...

Im pretty sure you dont have an 18 year old daughter, imagine a male teacher, your daughter, one of four, getting his jizz all over her face, she may well have loved it, gargled on it joyously....you think the courts would have given the male teacher 5 years?

 

[Die Hard]

Um she's a disgusting wh0re that abused a position of trust....die hard are you one of the lucky few to bang a teacher?

Do you even see the logical fallacy in your own statement? You say she "abused" her position in relation to the students (as if she did something BAD to them), but at the same time you say the students were "lucky" to bang her (as if she did something GOOD to them).

Is everyone losing his mind around here now?

Im pretty sure you dont have an 18 year old daughter, imagine a male teacher, your daughter, one of four, getting his jizz all over her face, she may well have loved it, gargled on it joyously....you think the courts would have given the male teacher 5 years?

What's your point? But here's a question for you: Imagine you are that male teacher, jizzing over four hot 18 year old students, who gargle on it joyously...you think you would feel remorse or guilt over it?

 

[betheman]

What's your point?

hypocrisy...double standard dear boy, a male teacher would have been lucky to get away with 15 years minimum, is it so difficult?

 

[Die Hard]

hypocrisy...double standard dear boy, a male teacher would have been lucky to get away with 15 years minimum, is it so difficult?

You are talking about the hypocrisy of the court system now, which is another subject altogether, that is not what your first post was about!

Your first post was about the teacher and how you thought she should feel guilt or remorse etc. Which is bullshyt, as I pointed out. Now either admit that or prove it wrong, don't try to change the subject, grandpa...

 

[disgustipated]

I get what die hard is saying. Feminism is all about removing the double standard, and we wll know feminism is wrong...we arent equal, there are differences between the sexes.

Point blank, guys at this age would LOVE for this to happen to them. Just about all of us. It's the kind of thing a dad would give a wink wink attta boy to his son over.

Same dad but a daughter, he'd wanna kill the teacher. That's the natural order of things.

The FUUCKED up order of things, the current order, is that feminism wants equality across the boards yet we still would punish the man more severely.

However, this is an abuse of power/position. Men and women alike would want their kids to go to school for an education and not be sidetracked with horny adults.

The boys were not victims. They even said so. We can't even be sure if the husband is a victim. He could have a serious cuckold fetish. We don't know.

 

[Burroughs]

Die Hard the white knight faggot gets his panties in a bunch.....no problem I've come to expect that from you

@disgustipated...not the *natural order of things* just the way you've been brainwashed...study things from a historical perspective and you will have a better view

 

[C-quenced]

I'm 100% with disgustipated on this one. People's perceptions on the natural order of things are beyond ****ed up in this era.

 

[Die Hard]

Die Hard,


So was her husband not the real victim here? We are forced to endure stories of "woe me" whereas this man is the laughing stock of the entire nation.


I refuse to see her as a victim while she was engaged in simultaneously fvking several men behind her husband's back.

Well, this case isn't really about her cheating on her husband. Yes, she did cheat on her husband, but that't not the main aspect about this case. The main aspect abut this case, is the fact that she is a teacher and the guys she fvcked were her students. That's what the news story is really about and that is what the discussion in this thread is about.

The fact that she fvcked four of her students, is why she lost her job. And the fact that she fvcked four of her students, is the reason why a court sentenced her to 5 years in jail. This would all be the case REGARDLESS of whether she was married or not!

The fact that she cheated on her husband has nothing to do with this all. She is not being punished for that fact.

So keep things in perspective:

* The guys liked fvcking her and she didn't try to bribe them, offer them better grades in exchange for sex or blackmail them, SO SHE DID NOTHING WRONG TO THOSE GUYS.
* However, if sexual relations between teachers and students are allowed, teachers COULD abuse their position towards students. So yeah, she should absolutely be fired if the school board finds out about it.
* But punishing her with 5 years in jail is a bit excessive, to say the least. I mean, come on... She has proven to be unfit for the position of teacher, so she should never be allowed to hold a job as a teacher again. But throwing her in jail for 5 years as if she committed some horrible crime, that's just bullshyt.
* This is the reason she feels victimized! And she has every right to! If you're unable to act professional and meet the requirements of your job, then you should not be allowed to work that job anymore and not whine about it. But if you GET THROWN IN JAIL FOR 5 YEARS because of that, you have every right to feel victimized.
* She also feels victimized because the students basically did this to her. They decided to tell the whole world about the sex and show videos of it, which resulted in 5 years of jail for her. Thanks, guys... I make your boyhood fantasies come true letting you fvck me and then you thank me by telling it around and causing me to spend 5 years in jail.

So none of this has anything to do with the fact that she cheated on her husband.
Putting her in jail for 5 years has nothing to do with cheating on her husband, it would have happened if she were single as well.
The students telling around and showing videos of the act, has nothing to do with her cheating on her husband, it would've happened if she were single as well.
Therefor, her feeling victimized (because of the aforementioned events) has nothing to do with cheating on her husband either. She would've felt victimized if she were single as well.

In other words Danger, your earlier comment suffers from confirmation bias:

We are forced to endure stories of "woe me" whereas this man is the laughing stock of the entire nation.

I refuse to see her as a victim while she was engaged in simultaneously fvking several men behind her husband's back.

You are just using this case to confirm your idea that women always fvck men over and then try to shake off their responsibility for it by playing the victim card.
But in this case, her responsibility to her husband has nothing to do with her feeling victimized. She would feel victimized if she were single, as well. So this case is not a confirmation of your idea at all, YOU JUST WANT IT TO BE!

And that's really why I'm taking a stance in this thread. Lots of us have this confirmation bias all the time. Everywhere we look, we see examples of women being the cause of all problems in the world. Even when that's not really the case, our bias still makes us think IT IS! This seems like a step in the wrong direction to me, we are overdoing it...
Of course we need to constantly remind ourselves of 'women and their ways' and be vigilant. But when you purposely search for the negativity and even detect it there where it is not present, you run the risk of it becoming a self fulfilling prophecy.

The very need for Burroughs to post a thread like this is unhealthy (not to speak of MatureDJ, who does nothing BUT post threads like this). The need for betheman to jump on it and present this woman's behavior as that of a "psychopath" is unhealthy. Overemphasizing women's negative behavior is unhealthy in the first place, let alone seeing it in places where it's not really there...

 

[Die Hard]

Die Hard the white knight faggot gets his panties in a bunch.....no problem I've come to expect that from you

You're going straight to ad hominums and don't even attempt to counter my arguments... Not the most honorable way to admit your defeat in debate, but I'll accept your surrender anyway. Better luck next time

 

[Die Hard]

The one true victim is the husband.

"One true victim"??? As if there can only be one victim in any given situation... Do you always think black and white like this?
The husband was victimized by the woman, the woman was victimized by the court (and, arguably, by the students). Your use of the term "one true victim" is just a way for you to express which victim you sympathize MOST with, but it doesn't change the fact that they were both victimized.

Now, if you want to ignore that fundamental fact, then sure we can talk about who the victim is between her and the 5 men.

It is not a fundamental fact, as I just explained. Furthermore, the fact that the husband is also a victim in this situation, doesn't change the fact that the woman was victimized, nor are these two facts mutually exclusive. Further-furthermore, there is absolutely no need to talk about who the victim is between her and the 5 men either, as the students are not victims of the sexual act at all.
But hey, that's just your bias again, you just HAVE to see everything from this dualistic viewpoint, don't you? The students don't even consider themselves victims, they have said so themselves. So why do you even bring this up as a potential point of discussion to me?
I'll tell you why!! It's because you're so eager to always look for a 'winner' and a 'loser' in a situation that contains a woman and a man (or several men, in this case), that your mind is simply unable to REGISTER the fact that the students don't consider themselves victims. You just don't register the fact or you register it and then it escapes your attention so you can continue to reason from your dualistic viewpoint, which is all you know.

She had sex with students. Clear violation of the law. Did the students violate a law? If so, what law was it they violated? Or are you arguing that a law should exist and the students should also be guilty of a crime and be put in jail?

LOL! More unrealistic reasoning stemming from your dualistic viewpoint and confirmation bias. Now you're even pretending that the sexual act must have a winner and a loser. As if one party must be considered a "victim" whenever two parties have sex, as if it's impossible for both parties to enjoy and benefit from the act!
You see?? Your mind is not even CAPABLE anymore of viewing situations between men and women as NEUTRAL. In your dualistic mind, there must always be a fight between the two...

So good luck with that, I see no further point in discussing these matters with you. You're having tunnel vision and our discussion would just keep going in circles because you're too caught up in your own dualistic viewpoint to see things from my perspective at this moment.

 

[Married Buried]

Where can I see this tape?

 

[Burroughs]

Clearly fag-hard has gone full retard :crazy: :crackup:

 

[Married Buried]

Clearly fag-hard has gone full retard :crazy: :crackup:

I REALLY wish I had a teacher like this. Then I wouldn't have gone 10 years without getting laid like the OP. There was a time I went that long without getting laid. But now I am happy.

 

[( . )( . )]

Seems every other week some birds getting sprung fvcking her students. I guess now that male teachers have gone the way of the dodo hypergamy still gotta hypergamy some way some how. All that testosterone and teen bravado would be sending these wall nearing b!tches hamsters into overdrive.

I lol'd at 20/20 turning this chicks hypergamous impulses into a "story". Even had the soft guitar playing throughout the background. You know your gender has hit the jackpot when instead of public shaming and nightly ass poundings from Bubba you get soft guitar and a reporters sympathetic ear.

Public schooling #winning.

 

[plate's_empty]

Teachers get more and more awesome every passing year. Too bad they always end up in jail though.

quote from a commenter on youtube. Pretty much sums it up.

These guys are pretty much rockstars now. They will have a story to tell until the day they die. Whatever happens to them in the future, they will always have the time they gang banged the teacher. Legendary. They are free to move on with their lives.

Her on the other hand.....
Kids in therapy. Family ruined. 5 years in jail. After effects.....endless.


She brought it on herself, but yeah, she's got a point.

 

[Married Buried]

Seems every other week some birds getting sprung fvcking her students. I guess now that male teachers have gone the way of the dodo hypergamy still gotta hypergamy some way some how. All that testosterone and teen bravado would be sending these wall nearing b!tches hamsters into overdrive.

I lol'd at 20/20 turning this chicks hypergamous impulses into a "story". Even had the soft guitar playing throughout the background. You know your gender has hit the jackpot when instead of public shaming and nightly ass poundings from Bubba you get soft guitar and a reporters sympathetic ear.

Public schooling #winning.

One time this teacher I went out with admitted she was a slut. When we were talking I got her to say "I went through all the male teachers"... and she also said "how do you think I got the house?" in regards to her divorce.

They are sluts and crazy.

 

[betheman]

You are talking about the hypocrisy of the court system now, which is another subject altogether, that is not what your first post was about!

Your first post was about the teacher and how you thought she should feel guilt or remorse etc. Which is bullshyt, as I pointed out. Now either admit that or prove it wrong, don't try to change the subject, grandpa...

of course she should feel guilt and remorse, she is a teacher, in a position of trust and authority, she has abused that role. the clue is in the fact she has committed a crime and been found guilty. no guilt or remorse!
nice mild ad hominem attack in there, hypocrite much?