You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Im pretty sure you dont have an 18 year old daughter, imagine a male teacher, your daughter, one of four, getting his jizz all over her face, she may well have loved it, gargled on it joyously....you think the courts would have given the male teacher 5 years?Die Hard said:Seriously, you guys need to get your brains checked...
Yes, she wanted to have sex with the dudes, but she didn't want the whole school to know about it. First of all, it's quite embarassing for a teacher when all of the school's students see a video of the teacher having sex (regardless with whom the teacher is having sex).
Secondly, when the videotape is shown to all the students, you can bet your ass that it will end up with the school's administration, resulting in the teacher losing the job, or even worse, get jailed.
So obviously the dudes really fvcked her over by showing the videotape around, this is clear to see for anyone with half a braincell. I'm pretty sure any of you would feel victimized after being publicly embarassed, losing your job and getting jailed for 5 years!!
So yeah, fvck you and your dumb asses. We all know that women are all too eager to play the victim card, but in this case it's legit and you are simply projecting your prejudice on this case. Plain out stupidity, but that's what I've come to expect from you, Burroughs...
But you're being just as dumb, betheman. Why the hell do you believe that this chick should feel remorse or guilt, and why do you label her act as "wrongdoing"?
She let four students gangbang her, which was an AWESOME experience for the dudes! How in the hell do you label that a "wrongdoing"??? It's the exact opposite, it is a GOOD DEED which the guys ENJOYED!
People are making little sense on these boards, nowadays...
Do you even see the logical fallacy in your own statement? You say she "abused" her position in relation to the students (as if she did something BAD to them), but at the same time you say the students were "lucky" to bang her (as if she did something GOOD to them).PairPlusRoyalFlush said:Um she's a disgusting wh0re that abused a position of trust....die hard are you one of the lucky few to bang a teacher?
What's your point? But here's a question for you: Imagine you are that male teacher, jizzing over four hot 18 year old students, who gargle on it joyously...you think you would feel remorse or guilt over it?betheman said:Im pretty sure you dont have an 18 year old daughter, imagine a male teacher, your daughter, one of four, getting his jizz all over her face, she may well have loved it, gargled on it joyously....you think the courts would have given the male teacher 5 years?
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
hypocrisy...double standard dear boy, a male teacher would have been lucky to get away with 15 years minimum, is it so difficult?Die Hard said:What's your point?
You are talking about the hypocrisy of the court system now, which is another subject altogether, that is not what your first post was about!betheman said:hypocrisy...double standard dear boy, a male teacher would have been lucky to get away with 15 years minimum, is it so difficult?
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Well, this case isn't really about her cheating on her husband. Yes, she did cheat on her husband, but that't not the main aspect about this case. The main aspect abut this case, is the fact that she is a teacher and the guys she fvcked were her students. That's what the news story is really about and that is what the discussion in this thread is about.Danger said:Die Hard,
So was her husband not the real victim here? We are forced to endure stories of "woe me" whereas this man is the laughing stock of the entire nation.
I refuse to see her as a victim while she was engaged in simultaneously fvking several men behind her husband's back.
You are just using this case to confirm your idea that women always fvck men over and then try to shake off their responsibility for it by playing the victim card.We are forced to endure stories of "woe me" whereas this man is the laughing stock of the entire nation.
I refuse to see her as a victim while she was engaged in simultaneously fvking several men behind her husband's back.
You're going straight to ad hominums and don't even attempt to counter my arguments... Not the most honorable way to admit your defeat in debate, but I'll accept your surrender anyway. Better luck next timeBurroughs said:Die Hard the white knight faggot gets his panties in a bunch.....no problem I've come to expect that from you
"One true victim"??? As if there can only be one victim in any given situation... Do you always think black and white like this?Danger said:The one true victim is the husband.
It is not a fundamental fact, as I just explained. Furthermore, the fact that the husband is also a victim in this situation, doesn't change the fact that the woman was victimized, nor are these two facts mutually exclusive. Further-furthermore, there is absolutely no need to talk about who the victim is between her and the 5 men either, as the students are not victims of the sexual act at all.Now, if you want to ignore that fundamental fact, then sure we can talk about who the victim is between her and the 5 men.
LOL! More unrealistic reasoning stemming from your dualistic viewpoint and confirmation bias. Now you're even pretending that the sexual act must have a winner and a loser. As if one party must be considered a "victim" whenever two parties have sex, as if it's impossible for both parties to enjoy and benefit from the act!She had sex with students. Clear violation of the law. Did the students violate a law? If so, what law was it they violated? Or are you arguing that a law should exist and the students should also be guilty of a crime and be put in jail?
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
Burroughs said:Clearly fag-hard has gone full retard :crazy: :crackup:
quote from a commenter on youtube. Pretty much sums it up.Teachers get more and more awesome every passing year. Too bad they always end up in jail though.
One time this teacher I went out with admitted she was a slut. When we were talking I got her to say "I went through all the male teachers"... and she also said "how do you think I got the house?" in regards to her divorce.( . )( . ) said:Seems every other week some birds getting sprung fvcking her students. I guess now that male teachers have gone the way of the dodo hypergamy still gotta hypergamy some way some how. All that testosterone and teen bravado would be sending these wall nearing b!tches hamsters into overdrive.
I lol'd at 20/20 turning this chicks hypergamous impulses into a "story". Even had the soft guitar playing throughout the background. You know your gender has hit the jackpot when instead of public shaming and nightly ass poundings from Bubba you get soft guitar and a reporters sympathetic ear.
Public schooling #winning.
of course she should feel guilt and remorse, she is a teacher, in a position of trust and authority, she has abused that role. the clue is in the fact she has committed a crime and been found guilty. no guilt or remorse!Die Hard said:You are talking about the hypocrisy of the court system now, which is another subject altogether, that is not what your first post was about!
Your first post was about the teacher and how you thought she should feel guilt or remorse etc. Which is bullshyt, as I pointed out. Now either admit that or prove it wrong, don't try to change the subject, grandpa...
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.